GlockOp Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Just interested in some knowledgeable opinions on which 1911-45 brand and model you consider the best for IDPA or other pistol competitions? Not necessarily the most expensive, but the best value. regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikev49 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Ive owned quite a few. My current favorite is my spartan. I know it seems like everyone is on the STI bandwagon right now and I was a little apprehensive, but... I aquired mine in a trade. it was new and the only thing I've really had to change is the grips because i prefer slim grips and I had to change the mainspring housing because the slip on magwell wouldnt fit so I had to use a magwell that was attached to the mainspring. I actually shot a steel match 2 days after getting it and had no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Hello: STI Spartan. Great value and they shoot great. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 "The best" is very subjective! I like my Springers but you have to put some money into them for me to consider them good. The best for me would be the one I'm having built but it might not be the best for you and it won't be cheap either. I would have to agree with Eric, if you want a good value the spartan has a lot to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaGunner Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 If I was to buy one today it would be the Spartan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I have several and shoot the Spartan. Something like reverse snobbery I think... It is a very good value for the money, IMO.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Hard to beat the STI Spartan for the money. I shoot a Kimber but I bought it 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockOp Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 Purchased an STI Spartan today. Great gun for the money. Shoots real well and excellent trigger feel. Thanks for the advice. Regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Hello: Now you need to do the upgrades Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Okay. Someone had to say it.... In terms of dollar-for-dollar value, nothing beats a Baer Premier II. There! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glknineteen Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Amen to that! They are pricey, but good Lord, what a fine pistol! Seriously, if you can spare the money, get a Les Baer or equivalent. It's always a good decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 (edited) There really isn't any correct answer here. The votes for the Spartan and Premier II are both excellent choices directed at somewhat different buyers. The street price on a Spartan is about $630. The street price on a Premier II is around $1800 after you add a magwell. Is the PII a "better" gun from a quality standpoint?...almost certainly. Is it three times better than a Spartan?...I can't see how it could be. If you've got the cash, and want something a little nicer, the PII is a great option that you won't likely regret. If you aren't flush with extra $$...get something like the Spartan, or split the difference and go with a Trojan, and use the extra money for other stuff. R, Edited October 27, 2010 by G-ManBart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgood Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 If you've got the cash, and want something a little nicer, the PII is a great option that you won't likely regret. If you aren't flush with extra $$...get something like the Sparta, or split the difference and go with a Trojan, and use the extra money for other stuff. That's me, right there. I could get a . . . oh, say $1300 pistol . . . and wish I had the money to do the upgrades I want. Or get a spartan and put the difference into upgrades and ammo. I'm seeing a Spartan in my (very near) future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 If you've got the cash, and want something a little nicer, the PII is a great option that you won't likely regret. If you aren't flush with extra $$...get something like the Sparta, or split the difference and go with a Trojan, and use the extra money for other stuff. That's me, right there. I could get a . . . oh, say $1300 pistol . . . and wish I had the money to do the upgrades I want. Or get a spartan and put the difference into upgrades and ammo. I'm seeing a Spartan in my (very near) future. The good thing is that it won't hold you back one bit. A "better" gun might be a touch more accurate, maybe last longer, etc, but it won't be a huge difference. By the time you get this one worn out, you could have the money saved up for something a little spendier. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 +1 on G ManBart but I have to say I really like my Trojan, grip angle and balance on it are very good for me. It's all in what you can spend. Expect a few hundred in options and tuning on any pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I own 4 Wilosn 1911s and one STI Trojan. If somebody asked me what to buy for competitive shooting I would tell them to buy the Trojan. The Wilson pistols are built from the best parts available and the fit, finish and accuracy are excellent, but they are very pricey now and you just don't have to spend that kind of money on a competitive 1911. Buy the Trojan do a trigger job on it and shoot the hell out of it. Upgrade parts as needed or as you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike21STI Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I've owned a bunch of different 1911's, I've had a Dan Wesson, 4 different Kimbers, a Smith and Wesson 1911, then I ended up getting a Nighthawk custom Talon that I use in CDP for IDPA. Great gun but too expensive. I do own a STI Sentry in 9mm and never had issues with it. I found out the hard way that you can get an STI that functions just as well as the "custom" guns and they are a lot less expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gino_aki Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 If you can find one before they get snapped up by another member...you really can't beat any brand of SS that's already been tricked out by a member selling it in the BEnos classifieds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 For CDP I would just get a Colt XSE. Its not much more than any of the cast framed 1911s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 For CDP I would just get a Colt XSE. Its not much more than any of the cast framed 1911s. I'm actually shooting an XSE myself in SS this year the only thing i dont care for are the sights, but that can be fixed. I want a new gun anyway, so i may look into a spartan and put the Colt back to carry status/backup match gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsville Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Why does California have to have the handgun roster? STI doesn't have one pistol approved. I recently purchased my first 1911 (SA TRP), the pistol is a tack driver and so much easier to shoot than my xd. I paid 3x more than an xd though. I am now thinking of purchasing a 1911 for IPSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Why does California have to have the handgun roster? STI doesn't have one pistol approved. I recently purchased my first 1911 (SA TRP), the pistol is a tack driver and so much easier to shoot than my xd. I paid 3x more than an xd though. I am now thinking of purchasing a 1911 for IPSC. STI decided they wouldn't deal with California...that's why no models are approved. IPSC or USPSA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 I'm a Springfield fan for single stacks. Its their bread and butter and I think they build a good gun... from a starter GI to the TRP they seem to have their poop together. If I were in the market for a factory .45 it'd be a Springfield Trophy Match. Magwell is there, beaver tail, adjustable sights, and a forged frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 I own 4 Wilosn 1911s and one STI Trojan. If somebody asked me what to buy for competitive shooting I would tell them to buy the Trojan. The Wilson pistols are built from the best parts available and the fit, finish and accuracy are excellent, but they are very pricey now and you just don't have to spend that kind of money on a competitive 1911. Buy the Trojan do a trigger job on it and shoot the hell out of it. Upgrade parts as needed or as you want to. I agree! I have a Baer Premier II, with the 1 1/2" at 50 yard group guarentee, and a Wilson that was worked over by Rock River Arms, with an 1 1/2" at 50 yard group guarentee, and an Ed Brown, but, I usually end up shooting one of my Trojans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I almost never shoot my Trojan. But if value meaning cheapest is question than the Trojan is the answer. You could spend money on upgrading to better parts, reliability, and finish. Knowing what I know now, I would have never purchased the Trojan and spent the money on a Baer, Nowlin, or Wilson instead. The accuracy on my stock Trojan was better than 1.5 inches at 25 yards. But I replaced all the fire controls, front sight, mag release, slide release, and STI had to replace the barrel. The bluing wears and some people think it looks cool that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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