bkeeler Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Ok sorry about the last poll but this should make more sense. I currently have mine blacked out. So I voted no. A Class L10 B Class Limited BK Edited January 12, 2009 by bkeeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshF Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I currently have mine blacked out. So I voted no. I just started doing the same thing after coming back to my fiber sighted production gun. I've been shooting a non-fiber limited gun for over a year and think it's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 M/Yes here. It brings my attention closer to the front post, and it funnels my vision to the tiny serrations when I am shooting at long distances. I could probably live without it, but since I have been using one from the beginning, I really do not see a reason to ditch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkeeler Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 I am thinking of going back to the fiber just to change things up a bit. The problem I had with it before was the fiber was washing the top of the front sight blade out. In the beginning of my competition shooting it was great. But I don't know if it would really make me any faster now. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XD Niner Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Dang! Does this mean that the USPSA is no longer going to promote me to GM? Okay, I voted "B/Yes" as I find it much easier to use the fiber optic with my substandard 56 year old eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouSlide Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 After wondering whether it was a crutch, I tried mine blacked out. Now I'm with the Pharoah on this one...it definitely brings my older eye to the front sight. Now I just have to keep working on not jumping the gun on solid sight alignment. Shooting at first sight of the FO is probably like break the shot with regular sights as soon as you see brown...not a way to nail down a lot of As. The FO has value so I don't want to toss the baby with the bath water. But it's no substitute for visual patience. Curtis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighVelocity Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 B Single Stack B Lim10 5 Gun EX in IDPA Red Fiber is best for me but I can get by with green. To be specific, I like the .60 fiber. Some folks say it's too big but for my eyes, it's perfect. I have repeatedly hit 25 yard head shots with it so I figure it's working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 A Limited A Single Stack (with the next update hopefully) My eyes aren't the best so I need something to see that front sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I'm w/ PB A/B in Limited/Production respectively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen517 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I like the f/o been using it since the beginning on all of the guns. Now on my primary. Seems to bring my attention to the sight quicker. B Limited C all the rest 51 with corrective lenses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 M - Production A - Limited I started out using one on my Production / LTD Glocks then I ditched & switch the Glocks to an STI. My Edge came with a regular iron sight that I shot for over a year with much success. So I thought I'd give the FO sight another try - stuck one on the Edge and couldn't wait to pull it back off within a day or two. I get lazy with a fiber optic .... yes it draws my attention to the sight very quickly but that's where the benefits end. It might be great for a speed stage, but I get very sloppy when shooting accuracy biased stuff. Can't have that. I'd rather be a tad slower on the short stuff and shoot mucho points, than the other way around. I'm much more accurate with a thin (.090) iron sight out front. BTW the serrations are still there ..... with or without the FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkeeler Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 I get lazy with a fiber optic .... yes it draws my attention to the sight very quickly but that's where the benefits end. It might be great for a speed stage, but I get very sloppy when shooting accuracy biased stuff. Can't have that. I'd rather be a tad slower on the short stuff and shoot mucho points, than the other way around.I'm much more accurate with a thin (.090) iron sight out front. BTW the serrations are still there ..... with or without the FO. I am with you Chris. I tend to get lazy with the f/o I see fiber and pull the trigger. When I blacked mine out my points got better and my times did not suffer they where actually a little better. I tried before to go back to the f/o but the points went to hell. So I think I will stick with the blacked out fiber. Not to say that the f/o didn't help when I first started. Thanks for all the input. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkeeler Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Ok instead of starting a new topic I will ask here. Has anybody that is using a fiber tried switching back to black front sight? If so did it help or hurt you? Thanks BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I switched back to black. Had run with Dawson and Sevigny FO for several months. Shooting to deliberately is a weakness in my game. I felt the FO front aggravated that weakness. The entire sight picture is cleaner now. I don't feel like I'm grinding on the front sight at targets <20 yards. Prescription shooting glasses ain't hurting either. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandbagger Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 A limited B SS,L10 was using FO for L10 then switched to all black in limited. helped me to focus more on the front sight, not just seeing the front sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkeeler Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) I am re-thinking this after reading this. Click here. If that link did not work read this. Cut and pasted from IPSC Global Village/ Eric Grauffel Click Here. Time to do some experimenting! BK Edited January 16, 2009 by bkeeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Echoing some of the above shooters. Installed a fiber when I began shooting - straight from factory night sights to a heinew/dawson setup on my G34. Shot that for 8 months. Eventually tried a steel front, because I found one dirt cheap. I've never missed the fiber. I can hit things FAST at distance now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srt205 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 C Limited 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcarter Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 "B" production. I like the fiber optic. I can see the issue some seem to have with it but, in my humble opinion, finding that front sight is most important to me. I'm 38 years old and have no issues with my eyes (after some fine work with a laser). One of these days I might try the plain front sight but for now I'm happy with my setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I never have trouble finding the sight, I just have trouble using it! Started with FO, got lazy and would shoot whenever the dot was there. Went back to plain black blade on my G34 and prefer it, even though my 54 yo eyes may like something else. It's a matter of discipline, and I find I don't have it that much anymore so I just stay with the plain blade. My G17 is set with an FO that I roll out every now and then, but find myself drifting back to bad habits. "B" Production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2osport Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 c/limited 10 c/limited d production I had it on my production gun, but went without on my single stack and limited/limited10 guns. Have not shot the production gun in a year or so. I really like the black on black sights for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFoley Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 M-Limited, Yes, but I keep it just barely over the .040 and don't mind if it has a little filth on it to keep it dimmed a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 (edited) M-Limited, Yes, but I keep it just barely over the .040 and don't mind if it has a little filth on it to keep it dimmed a bit. +1 to all the above. I still use the fiber, but very small and dim, in green. Its more a reminder to my 44 year old tiring eyes (I have startred wearing a prescripion to shoot in the last few years) what I'm supposed to be looking for every shot (the blade of the front sight, not just the dot). I still line up the blade in the notch, but the fiber helps me find the blade again a little bit faster. Using the dot as the end all to be all for what your front sight alignment should be, is a mistake. Sure, its quick at 5 yard targets, but you still have to get your proper sight picture, or risk sloppiness. I think of fiber as almost a trick of the day, if all you are doing is lining up the dot in the notch. It will get you faster, but very quickly you get kind of immune to it and your accuracy can sufffer. You still have to see what you need to see every shot.... if the fiber becomes an obstacle to you for this, then ditch it. Or you can always keep the fiber blackened, but light it up for dim or low light shooting, occasionally. Edited January 22, 2009 by sfinney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I'm using FO on my Limited gun only because I don't want to spend the money to have my SS switched over (my guns were built before dovetail front sights were popular). I am 62 and prefer the green fiber optic because it is sharp to my vision (the red/orange is fuzzy) and draws my attention to it. It hasn't made me a better shooter or anything but it helps me enjoy competing. I prefer Hi-Viz but will use others. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzygä Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I have FO in my limited, production and SS guns and never go back for normal black front sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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