DocMedic Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Dumb question, but I'm looking over the rules for PCC division and I don't see any specific ruling saying a PCC can't use a bipod. What would be the call if I used one at a USPSA lvl2 match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schutzenmeister Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Under "Competition" rules (i.e., handgun) there is no mention of bipods. Therefore, I don't see how anyone could say no. (Potentially an oversight ... Who knows.) Under Multigun rules a PCC can only have a bipod in Open division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 It looks like it may be OK but you will have to have it on for the entire match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schutzenmeister Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Thanks @ChuckS ... I had to hunt a little, but I found it. Rule 5.1.8 governs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just for reference: IPSC PCC Rules have: 11. The use of bipods and similar permitted: No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schutzenmeister Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Interestingly, I just double checked the Multigun rules. Under MG 5.1.2.2 bipods may be added or removed at any time during the match. I don't know why they didn't carry this over to HG rules ... but, they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_J Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 But. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHicks Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 A PCC without the bipod isn't enough, in a regular USPSA match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuey Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I have to ask why you would need a bipod for a PCC gun? Building one for USPSA and IDPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 Thanks for the answers, I had clarified with the MD prior to the match start and as it was answered here, yes you can however it must be attached the whole time. To answer some questions, sometimes you just find a advantage for more stablation at longer shots at matches that have 80 yard shots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVC Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 USPSA Level 2 match with 80 yard shots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeg1005 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) Shooting 3-4 aimed shots at those targets would be easier than trying to setup and the get out of a bipod position.... I'd argue taking a mike would be better for your score than trying to do it as well. Edited July 17, 2023 by mikeg1005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 hours ago, mikeg1005 said: Shooting 3-4 aimed shots at those targets would be easier than trying to setup and the get out of a bipod position.... I'd argue taking a mike would be better for your score than trying to do it as well. You arent thinking outside the box enough. Start knelling, low ready. Bipod is already deployed, mount and shoot. Leave position. It will 100% be beneficial in certain situations. Watching IPSC rifle matches, there is some very unique stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHicks Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Maximis228 said: You arent thinking outside the box enough. Start knelling, low ready. Bipod is already deployed, mount and shoot. Leave position. It will 100% be beneficial in certain situations. Watching IPSC rifle matches, there is some very unique stuff. Isn't he talking about shooting in regular USPSA matches in the PCC division. Not rifle only matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVC Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Rifle matches with rifle-difficulty targets can certainly benefit from a bipod. But if it's a pistol match where a rifle shooter would benefit from a bipod, the targets are not appropriate for pistols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, MHicks said: Isn't he talking about shooting in regular USPSA matches in the PCC division. Not rifle only matches. Speaking strictly from a gaming aspect off a start position. It can be done and would have benefits for a PPC shooter in a specific situation. Much like why some PPC shooters use 2 red dots... it make sense on certain leans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHicks Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Maximis228 said: Speaking strictly from a gaming aspect off a start position. It can be done and would have benefits for a PPC shooter in a specific situation. Much like why some PPC shooters use 2 red dots... it make sense on certain leans. Some stages do allow you to start anywhere in the shooting area. I suppose you could start kneeling but I don't know about having the bipod already deployed. The stages I've seen that allow starting anywhere have never had long range, small targets that you'd want to be your first target. When I've run across a stage with a mini popper or two out at 40 or 50 yards it's always the last shots you'd probably take. The possibility of this specific instance that a bipod would be a benefit sounds pretty remote vs having to have a bipod on your PCC all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Plus most PCC dudes are rocking 2 foot-long super-extendo-mags. Maybe they could just get a swivel base for the mag and shoot from a seated position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertwil18 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Maximis228 said: You arent thinking outside the box enough. Start knelling, low ready. Bipod is already deployed, mount and shoot. Leave position. It will 100% be beneficial in certain situations. Watching IPSC rifle matches, there is some very unique stuff. I don't know about where you're shooting, but most of the WSB i've seen, even if it is a "start anywhere" stage still reference "standing", which is clearly defined and doesn't allowed for a kneeling, crouching, or even hunched start. I can't imagine a bipod being useful at all in a USPSA match unless absolutely everything could be shot from a single position, which should never be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 If there was a USPSA match where it was actually useful for the PCC guys to use a bipod then wouldn't that be at least half a clue that that match was foobar'd for all the pistol shooters? i.e. for better than 90% of the participants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4ptor Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 hours ago, ddc said: If there was a USPSA match where it was actually useful for the PCC guys to use a bipod then wouldn't that be at least half a clue that that match was foobar'd for all the pistol shooters? i.e. for better than 90% of the participants? Just use a bipod on the pistol as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParrytheWind Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 This seems like slings,.. although they are allowed they may not be the best choice for quickness and agility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lroy Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Time to put a bipod on my open gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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