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Installed a thumb rest on my limited gun and love it. Helps get consistent grip and I thought it helped me reduce recoil. But after a couple matches and watching a video of a stage I've noticed two things. Shots are spread out more and gun dips on recoil now. The second it may have done the whole time I'm not exactly sure. But I find it odd that my shots are spread out further now? Any insite?

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Try putting less downward pressure on it.  I saw something similar when I was running one on a open gun.  I'd normally say go run some bill drills while varying the pressure you put on it and see what you get (allowing for ammo availability.)

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19 hours ago, caspian guy said:

Try putting less downward pressure on it.  I saw something similar when I was running one on a open gun.  I'd normally say go run some bill drills while varying the pressure you put on it and see what you get (allowing for ammo availability.)

I'm planning on getting over to the local indoor range saturday and testing out a couple different recoil springs and a very modified bill drill type thing. Going to video it and see what works best. I havent tested any recoil springs other then 12.5 in this gun yet as I just got it finished a few months ago. Just put a 12.5# in since it was what I used with the last limited gun. 

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One of the reasons I gave up on thumb rests is that, while it may give you a consistent grip position, it makes recoil control more complex by adding the additional factor of thumb pressure. You can spend a couple hundred hours and several thousand rounds in practice to refine it. Or just keep your grip, and your pistol, as simple as possible. I put one on a pistols a few years ago and shots were going everywhere. And it wasn't one direction where I could see, "Ok, I'm shooting low-right, I can adjust that by..." it was totally inconsistent. Got rid of the thumb rest and everything tightened back up.

 

The more you complicate things, the more difficult it is to be consistent. 

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  • 1 month later...

So I've gone back and forth with my limited gun with the thumb rest and I think psyched myself out a bit due to a friend deciding to take his thumb rest off because it was making the gun dip more. What I have found is I can be just as consistent with our without it but my grip is way more consistent with the thumb rest. I have been shooting and practicing with my SS pistol recently, about the last 2.5 months because the mitten match, locap only, is at the end of this month and I still get the spread out shots if I'm going to fast. Usually it's due to early trigger pull on a transition followed up by a second well placed shot. I just recently got into a club that I can live fire train at when ever I want, 24hr indoor range access. And have been soly working on transitions for the last month. Shot a match this past weekend and I'm getting a LOT more close doubles then before. I've also started training with a few friends who are A class and close to making M. That has helped out a ton due to having people around who can watch and critique me. 

 

So while I am choosing to keep the thumb rest I do think it isnt for everyone and you need to try it before you spend the time or money to have one installed. 

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  • 8 months later...

when i shot open i always had a thumb rest. however it depended on the weight of the gun and i noticed that I didn't need to leverage the thumbrest as much with a front heavier gun (titanium comp and tungsten sleeve) but without it, that slight downward pressure helped me with getting back on target that much faster. 

 

I'm shooting CO now and i'm thinking about getting tungsten battery inserts and a brass grip to get me closer to that 59oz weight limit. 

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  • 1 year later...

If you can adjust position on it. I like to put mine far enough forward where I can’t really put downward pressure on it.  It’s just there as a marker to more quickly and consistently reset offhand grip. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

I tried a thumb rest on my limited guns a few times. I even shot a season with it. At the end I decided against it for various reasons. The main one is it prevents me from switching between different guns (The ones without a thumb rest) easily. Also the benefit of it is highly debatable for me. Perhaps it works better with an Open gun but with everything else it is actually counterproductive. At least for me.

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