AngeloConde Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 He is an amazing shooter no matter what his or their decisions he in my eyes is one of the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkD Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 On 12/28/2020 at 3:45 PM, motosapiens said: Not that I really care, but if I were speculating, I'd speculate that maybe he wanted to shoot some other division or do some other thing that didn't fit into their plans.... Or maybe he wants to cut down his match schedule to focus on school..... wutever. He is a terrific young man, and will go far in life. And as far as I can tell infinity is a reputable and successful company that will continue to be successful. Everyone should be happy. Sounds like they fired him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvDog Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I’m sure they both have their reasons and it’s their business. From what I’ve seen Christian has been a very good representative of the sport. I wish him the best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/29/2020 at 10:58 AM, CHA-LEE said: I think that the marketing engine in the gun industry is well past the "Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday" strategy. The gun industry marketing effort has trended towards Brand Ambassadors which have a higher engagement with a direct audience via various mediums. Winning matches with specific products is nice, but that isn't the primary marketing goal for most companies. The primary marketing goal is to promote brand awareness in a manner that translates into sales. If anyone looking to get sponsored doesn't realize that their "Sponsorship" MUST translate to an increase in product sales they are delusional. This is no different than seeking employment. If you can't produce profitable value, well beyond your compensation, to a company then there is no reason to employ you. We will likely never know the details of why Infinity and Christian decided to part ways. Honestly, it doesn't matter as it is really none of our business. I am sure that Infinity will continue as a successful custom gun business and that Christian will continue to perform well in the Practical Shooting Sports. I wish them both the best moving forward!!! I agree. In the ski industry they moved from instructors getting the best pro-form prices to ski shop employees. The ski shops were where most of recommendations for equipment came for buying equipment. Brand ambassadors are IT. “How many followers” or who goes to the shops and shows are key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkD Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, pjb45 said: I agree. In the ski industry they moved from instructors getting the best pro-form prices to ski shop employees. The ski shops were where most of recommendations for equipment came for buying equipment. Brand ambassadors are IT. “How many followers” or who goes to the shops and shows are key. do you think people are ditching their guns and buying what sailer or any other shooter is currently shooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, DirkD said: do you think people are ditching their guns and buying what sailer or any other shooter is currently shooting? Of course he doesn't know the answer to that. Neither do you, me, or anyone else on here. Who cares why he left? This drama is ridiculous and should be beyond grown men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkD Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, SGT_Schultz said: Of course he doesn't know the answer to that. Neither do you, me, or anyone else on here. Who cares why he left? This drama is ridiculous and should be beyond grown men. he seems to think who a guy like sailer shoots for is going to relate to sales, I don't see it that way, a sponsored shooter will shoot for whoever pays them or gives them equipment. what drama is there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, DirkD said: he seems to think who a guy like sailer shoots for is going to relate to sales, I don't see it that way, a sponsored shooter will shoot for whoever pays them or gives them equipment. What's your take on how a sports sponsorship deal works, for both sides of the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floater Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I don't really care what gun he shoots. He is a very nice young man with a bright future, if it is the shooting world or not. I wish him the best. I will say anyone would be lucky to have a shooter like him in the fold, what I've seen I would want him to rep my company, super nice and really good with young shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intheshaw1 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 It's all about social media now and driving sales. Metrics can be easily tracked to see if you're performing or not. Winning only gains followers but you still have to close the sale. But it seems likely that he may want to focus more on school right now vs shooting but that's only speculation. As good as he is now, it would be hard to turn it into a lifelong career in shooting. More likely to get a degree and work in the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 19 hours ago, DirkD said: do you think people are ditching their guns and buying what sailer or any other shooter is currently shooting? People buy and sell guns for their own reasons. I know I went to Infinity not because of their champions at that time, not even Doni influenced me. I knew Max years before I ever purchased a X5 and I did not buy it because of him. I knew Angus years before I ever purchased a CZ. I knew John Paul years before I ever purchased a JP. I might not be the best judge of character :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merldizzle Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 On 12/29/2020 at 10:40 AM, SGT_Schultz said: And how many of those changes were for the better? Just about none. This was an interesting watch, thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I remember watching that Nike video some time ago. Very sobering. And not at all surprising considering Nike is pretty awful company in general. As for CS/Infinity, could be any number of things. But I'd guess it's probably about school and moving on to a real career. Although maybe a handful of top shooters make a decent living doing it, they'll never come close to what you can make in a high-level professional occupation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csailer Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone45 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 hours ago, csailer said: lol lol congrats on another win champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 CS--you are still one of the nicest guys I have ever met. Travis, Max and you are the most gracious people. Yeah, I would probably include TGO and some guy from VA (is that where you live Todd?). Those guys started the "GMs are easy to talk with.." philosophy and the next generation has take up the mantle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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