ysrracer Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) Titegroup, Clays, 231, AA#5, and Win WST. Which one do you guys like for a 115 FMJ to make minor? Any pet loads? Edited August 25, 2020 by ysrracer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 In a Glock, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhotoRecon Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 All of those but I pefer Titegroup or Clays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 231 or WST. Cleaner compared to titegroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I can't stand Titegroup. Clays is too spikey. 231 is dirty and produces more recoil that necessary. Don't really know why. WST and AA5 are good. If you run out of them, e3 is a really good alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbcaster45 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) I know it's not the softest shooting powder and it's not one you mentioned... but my Beretta 92G sure likes BE-86! Fifteen shots at 30 feet. Bullet: Hornady 115 gr. FMJ Powder: BE-86 5.0 grs. Primer: Winchester Small Pistol Case: Fiocchi OAL: 1.115 Edited August 25, 2020 by pbcaster45 spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) @pbcaster45 at just thirty feet, a gun should be stacking them on top of each other with a load that it likes. That large 3 inch group is not very encouraging. Even discounting the three flyers, you’re around 1.5 inches. I’m sure you’ll respond with something to the effect that this was freehand unsupported etc etc... which means the image isn’t at all demonstrative of the mechanical accuracy of the weapon & ammo. Also? On 8/25/2020 at 2:27 PM, zzt said: I can't stand Titegroup. Clays is too spikey. 231 is dirty and produces more recoil that necessary. Don't really know why. WST and AA5 are good. If you run out of them, e3 is a really good alternative. This is a pretty good summary of where the listed powders fit. Listen to zzt. Edited August 27, 2020 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Titegroup is my go to powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbcaster45 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 47 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: @pbcaster45 at just thirty feet, a gun should be stacking them on top of each other with a load that it likes. That large 3 inch group is not very encouraging. Even discounting the three flyers, you’re around 1.5 inches. I’m sure you’ll respond with something to the effect that this was freehand unsupported etc etc... which means the image isn’t at all demonstrative of the mechanical accuracy of the weapon & ammo. Also? This is a pretty good summary of where the listed powders fit. Listen to zzt. Can I use old age? I'm 63 and my eyeballs are not what they used to be! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I've been using 231 / HP38 for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, pbcaster45 said: Can I use old age? I'm 63 and my eyeballs are not what they used to be! LOL! I have no problem with your group size! Just... it gives no proof that this is any kind of accurate load worth copying, which your post implied. That’s all. Edited August 27, 2020 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A4ME Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 A load that shoot good in one pistol may not shoot good in another. Fact of life. Best to develop your own loads. My CZ .40's love those Nosler 135 grain hollow points over a compressed load of Blue Dot. My M&P and FNS pistols could care less about that load. The 180 grain load (winchester 180 grain factory loads) that do pretty well in the FNS .40's suck for air in the CZ .40's. The Winchester 124 FMJ NATO ammo that almost makes the 2.0 9MM M&P 5" look good are sad/sorry in my CZ 9MM pistols. The PD or Zero 115 HPs over Blue Dot that do so well in the CZ 9MM are a waste of time shooting in the that M&P. In my experience you're lucky to find a load that shoots well in more than one brand of pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 Sorry, I actually have 124gr Xtreme plated bullets. I loaded up a few with 4.3gr of 231. I'm chrono them on Wednesday and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old558 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, ysrracer said: Sorry, I actually have 124gr Xtreme plated bullets. I loaded up a few with 4.3gr of 231. I'm chrono them on Wednesday and report back. I use Xtreme with 4.0 gr of 231 with good results, interested to see what you find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, old558 said: I use Xtreme with 4.0 gr of 231 with good results, interested to see what you find. I'm going to shoot these thru a S&W 929 9mm revolver, so I always need an extra grain or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen7942 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 I am a fan of titegroup - It's the powder I started with and stocked up on I may be biased based on that. Works good for me. I load 3.2g for a 147g bullet. May need to tweak the load up to 3.5 or so for 124g bullet. Check the data books to be safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooltwister Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 On 8/25/2020 at 12:48 PM, pbcaster45 said: I know it's not the softest shooting powder and it's not one you mentioned... but my Beretta 92G sure likes BE-86! Fifteen shots at 30 feet. Bullet: Hornady 115 gr. FMJ Powder: BE-86 5.0 grs. Primer: Winchester Small Pistol Case: Fiocchi OAL: 1.115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooltwister Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Just now, Tooltwister said: Nice groups, man. I wouldn't want to be downrange of that! Gonna try your powder, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobkoh Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 9:51 AM, pbcaster45 said: Can I use old age? I'm 63 and my eyeballs are not what they used to be! LOL! I'm older, started in IPSC in the 70s. I still practice coming out of the holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobkoh Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Mozambique 17 yards from the holster with a stock 9mm RO Champion. It was hot, humid and a lot of bugs. So I ran about 80 to 90 rounds. Fiochi 115s. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigarmsp226 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 231 is what I have used for the past 10+ years but have titegroup as a common backup..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobkoh Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sigarmsp226 said: 231 is what I have used for the past 10+ years but have titegroup as a common backup..... We went through the "which powder is better" back in the 70s long before TG. 231 always came out on top. But, those were 45acp days. Edited September 6, 2020 by Bobkoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 Here's my chrono report. Note, I was firing it thru a five inch S&W revolver. Name: 9mm: 124gr Xtreme RN, Win 231, 4.3gr, Win Case Notes: S&W 929 5" barrel Shots: 30 Average: 950 ft/s SD: 17 ft/s Min: 928 ft/s Max: 989 ft/s Spread: 61 ft/s Power Factor Average: 117 Power Factor Low: 115 Power Factor High: 122 Weight: 124.0 gr. Powder: Win 231 4.3gr Case: Win Primer: Fed SPP Bullet: Extreme 124gr RN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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