Onepocket Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 How important are following the rules at a local match to you? 100%, 0% or do you pick and choose what you decide to inforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) Odd post. Can you explain your reasoning on this one a bit more? If you want to shoot USPSA, shoot USPSA. If you don't, shoot some form of Outlaw match and name it as such. So... 100% would be my answer. And yes, that includes rules pertaining to stage design. Edited February 6, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 100%. I travel all over the country (and a good part of the western hemosphere) for work. I want the rules to be absolutely the same in Guam as they are in Florida. Any difference in rules leads to issues, which is why we have rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 Im 100% also, just curious in others thoughts. Some say its just a local match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 The trouble with bending the rules a little is that the guy running the match is the only one who knows the rules. By the way, congratulations on your 666th post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 Glad to hear I'm not the only person that thinks the rules should be followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 100%. Why should it be different at some matches? Who's "special"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 If our match falls on an even numbered day we enforce only the odd numbered rules; if the match falls on an odd numbered day we enforce only the even numbered rules. That way folks know what to expect when they show up for the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulkey Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 100% because we are not politicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 26 minutes ago, titandriver said: If our match falls on an even numbered day we enforce only the odd numbered rules; if the match falls on an odd numbered day we enforce only the even numbered rules. That way folks know what to expect when they show up for the match. Left Twix / Right Twix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 40 minutes ago, titandriver said: If our match falls on an even numbered day we enforce only the odd numbered rules; if the match falls on an odd numbered day we enforce only the even numbered rules. That way folks know what to expect when they show up for the match. You sound like a guy that thinks its just a local match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWBaldree Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Want to know the fastest way to kill the quality of a local match? Start subjectively ignoring the rules. That is usually enough to keep the more competitive shooters away. It also gives that particular match / club a bad rep for a long time, thus discouraging new shooters from trying it out. From observation, it usually happens when the match director loses interest, or when he is worried about losing his 'core' group. Usually the 'core' group is only a handful of shooters, the same ones that tend to drive away the new people that show up to try out the match. In the long run the club just slides further down the mediocrity pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, Onepocket said: You sound like a guy that thinks its just a local match. Dunno for sure - we still use whistles and a stop watch, stop plates, paper & pencil to score, and, when necessary we break out the ballistic pendulum to discern major from minor. Ain't that the way most folks do it at their matches? Oh sure, they prolly use all that fancy-schmancy electronic gizmos at the Nationals, but hell, that's only once a year right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onepocket Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, titandriver said: Dunno for sure - we still use whistles and a stop watch, stop plates, paper & pencil to score, and, when necessary we break out the ballistic pendulum to discern major from minor. Ain't that the way most folks do it at their matches? Oh sure, they prolly use all that fancy-schmancy electronic gizmos at the Nationals, but hell, that's only once a year right? You are on the wrong site, doodie is waiting on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 22 minutes ago, Onepocket said: You are on the wrong site, doodie is waiting on you. Tell me more about this doodie of which you speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 http://www.doodieproject.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, Steve RA said: http://www.doodieproject.com/ Oh my! Ask and you shall receive -- quickly! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWBaldree Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 12 hours ago, titandriver said: Dunno for sure - we still use whistles and a stop watch, stop plates, paper & pencil to score, and, when necessary we break out the ballistic pendulum to discern major from minor. Ain't that the way most folks do it at their matches? Oh sure, they prolly use all that fancy-schmancy electronic gizmos at the Nationals, but hell, that's only once a year right? I find that I do a lot better when I track my time by counting Mississippi's in my head and call out my hits as I'm shooting. It makes it easier for the scorekeeper as well. It's just a local match, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Excellent idea! I think we'll incorporate your time and scoring methods at our next match - oughtta save us a lot of time. And, you're right, it's just a local match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuelie777 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Absolutely 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm300 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 99% Saw a guy get popper screwed at a local. It was going down easy for everyone before him. My guess is it got bumped or something. He got there and it failed to go down with 3 close to center hits. He got it to go down by shooting it and while it rocked back shooting it again. I shot it with my 135 PF ammo, hit it dead center of the scoring zone and it took 5 seconds to fall. We made the assumption that it would not go down with 120 pf and gave him a re-shoot. I can't remember breaking the rules before but now I can't say 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanks Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 hours ago, ktm300 said: 99% Saw a guy get popper screwed at a local. It was going down easy for everyone before him. My guess is it got bumped or something. He got there and it failed to go down with 3 close to center hits. He got it to go down by shooting it and while it rocked back shooting it again. I shot it with my 135 PF ammo, hit it dead center of the scoring zone and it took 5 seconds to fall. We made the assumption that it would not go down with 120 pf and gave him a re-shoot. I can't remember breaking the rules before but now I can't say 100%. In a similar situation, the RO stopped the shooter, told him to unload and show clear and then asked people to re-calibrate as he had seen center hits and stuff did not fall down. The shooter then reshot the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) Both of the above examples, while maybe morally correct, are not by the rulebook. The rule book is established for all shooters to be treated equally. Administering rules by group think is wrong. Edited February 7, 2017 by Gary Stevens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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