TJART Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 The OP said the sp01 and the tactical sport but the CGW site says sp01 and 75b in 40. Am I missing something here? I have a 40 TS that I would love to put this thing in.Same here, I just searched the whole site looking for the TS version. they only have the sp-01 released. they just got a batch of TS bushings in, and they want to make sure they're all good before putting up on the site. there was some issue with the sp bushings, and they had to be worked or sent back out or something; so they just want to make sure everything is how they want it before releasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 awesome, I guess I will add CGW as one of my daily check sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhollis51 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Don't see any difference in these and the Accu bushing as for being legal in production. the damn AB aren't installed at the factory and are legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArrDave Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Don't see any difference in these and the Accu bushing as for being legal in production. the damn AB aren't installed at the factory and are legal. Difference being that the AccuShadow had a SKU with CZ-USA for a while, did it not? In spirit, I feel they should allow it to be legal in production if the Accubushing is, because in reality it's the difference between one gunsmith installing an aftermarket bushing, vs. another, as the Accu bushing is not a CZUB part, if you want to be technical. To the letter, I'll bet they're illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhollis51 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 true. forgot about that part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJART Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Don't see any difference in these and the Accu bushing as for being legal in production. the damn AB aren't installed at the factory and are legal.Difference being that the AccuShadow had a SKU with CZ-USA for a while, did it not? In spirit, I feel they should allow it to be legal in production if the Accubushing is, because in reality it's the difference between one gunsmith installing an aftermarket bushing, vs. another, as the Accu bushing is not a CZUB part, if you want to be technical. To the letter, I'll bet they're illegal. Kind of. They were able to sell over 2000 units, which makes any gun a production legal unit. So by uspsa rules, you can remove stock bushing and replace with another factory bushing (accu) and be legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpa5oh Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 How's the old bushing removed? Does it come out easily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdd817 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 When I removed my bushing (for a completely unrelated project to this post), I used a hex bolt socket that was large enough to not go through the bushing, but large enough to fit down the slide, a punch down the middle of the socket, and hammered it out. Took a bit of hammering, but it came out just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 How's the old bushing removed? Does it come out easily? as above or you pull the front sight pin out and then go shoot it about 5 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) It's NOT that they allow aftermarket guide rods and firing pins because they're internal parts that are visible externally. Aftermarket guide rods and firing pins and for that matter sights are allowed because the USPSA rulebook specifically allows them. Period. The ACCU-bushing is allowed because the Accu-Shadow is on the NROI List of Approved Production Guns. It's that simple. There's no argument to be made the 10X Bushing is production legal. It's not. It's an external modification. Installation of aftermarket barrel bushings are NOT specifically allowed. Therefore, it's not production legal. Edited February 13, 2016 by IDescribe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) The bushing isn't legal, but an argument could be made that the bushing is more like these parts: "Sights, firing pins, firing pin retainers, pins, extractors and ejectors MAY be replaced with OFM or aftermarket parts." Rather than these parts, which are all manipulated by thumbs/fingers. "Examples of external components which may only be replaced with OFM parts include (but are not limited to): magazine releases, slide stops, thumb safeties and triggers. " Maybe something to ask for clarification for the next rule book? Edited February 13, 2016 by Quack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Spoiler AlertThe clarification is going to look something like this: 21.6 Exchange of minor EXTERNAL components Sights, firing pins, firing pin retainers, pins, extractors and ejectors MAY be replaced with OFM or aftermarket parts. Any other components which are externally visible may ONLY be replaced with OFM parts which are offered on the specific model of gun or another approved gun from the same manufacturer except as specifically clarified below. All you needed was to copy two sentences instead of just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Unless you can get a nroi ruling stating they are ok. In that case those puppies will be sold out in minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinyerface Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 If it is a part, you can buy it. So, what is the SKU on a CZ bushing? CZ parts diagrams don't list this as a separate piece, it is included in the slide. D4 21.3 You are allowed an aftermarket slide of the same length and contour. A modified factory slide is an aftermarket slide in my book. My read of this is if the length and contour is the same, it is legal for prod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bthoefer Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) If it is a part, you can buy it. So, what is the SKU on a CZ bushing? CZ parts diagrams don't list this as a separate piece, it is included in the slide. D4 21.3 You are allowed an aftermarket slide of the same length and contour. A modified factory slide is an aftermarket slide in my book. My read of this is if the length and contour is the same, it is legal for prod. This has been gone over before, the machining for the accu bushing is what makes the slide no longer legal for production if it is not originally purchased that way. The only machining allowed is to install sights. This is why you can not send a shadow slide in and have a bushing added. Edited February 13, 2016 by bthoefer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ85Combat Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 originally purchased with Accu-bushing or a slide that was sent in to have the Accu-bushing added. How do you tell the difference in the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 You can't, it's a honor system. I don't see the hurt to add a accu bushing though, o advantage is gained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 If for some reason one wanted to replace the factory bushing with an OEM part, is it even available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRevolutionIX Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I would be interested in hearing from the NROI on this. Something similar to this came up regarding aftermarket/extended mag releases on M&Ps. They ruled aftermarket releases to be legal as long as they kept the same profile and that the only difference was the length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Will it work with the Australian Barrel ???? It will look awesome Mj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 Yes, it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuduman Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Too bad their web page has been down for at least four days; I'd like to order one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Too bad their web page has been down for at least four days; I'd like to order one of these. CGW site is up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) http://cajungunworks.com/ Website is up and working Edited February 15, 2016 by bowenbuilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuduman Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Hmmm... not from my place. IP resolves via DNS, but the web server never answers. I'll try via some other internet source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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