Ultimo-Hombre Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Well, as everyone knows the equipment to get into even production is still so expensive, so I propose this new Economic Division. Production Single: Same guns as production, but you are only required/allowed one mag. (to save on equipment costs!) That one mag must be tactically reloaded through out the stage! Oh, holsters and mag pouches are too expensive too, so all stages will have a special table start position, and the mag will always be started in the gun or on the table. You don't need a holster. New rules for rifles at pistol matches will have you covered. You just need to carry with the muzzle held vertically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nghthwk1911 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Flame Thrower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Old School Open: singlestack, comps, no optics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p7fl Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Drop Limited, Open and Production for 2 years. Everyone shoots CO and Revolver . We need more guns not more people and divisions. Also, no guns under 40 oz. Edited January 26, 2016 by p7fl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Lot's of people with anger issues over a new division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Some of us aren't angry, we are just having fun with it Can't speak for everyone though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 How about a "killer fruit" division? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt5FQ4uMj_k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Lot's of people with anger issues over a new division. I'm not angry. I'm being totally serious. Let's create divisions to appease everyone. If I can only get one division, I'll take Production 15. I know it will help grow the sport. All of my buddies that already are USPSA members and shoot Production will definitely shoot Production 15. Edited January 26, 2016 by d_striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I know it will help grow the sport. All of my buddies that already are USPSA members and shoot Production will definitely shoot Production 15. haha, that made me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowlmouths Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I've never understood the mind set that thinks too many classes hurts the sport. Yes, some classes will not have the participation of the more popular classes, but it certainly doesn't seem to hurt the NHRA. They have over 200 classes within 15 different categories. You are right but it is nothing more than a bracket race until you race someone in the same class. I don't think we are going to start putting dial in times on our shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronArcher Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Lot's of people with anger issues over a new division. I'm not angry. I'm being totally serious. Let's create divisions to appease everyone. If I can only get one division, I'll take Production 15. I know it will help grow the sport. All of my buddies that already are USPSA members and shoot Production will definitely shoot Production 15. I would shoot absolutely shoot it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Saying that anything will increase participation has become the infallible justification for any and all changes? " production 17 will increase participation" BOOM you are an isolationist ass if you disagree with the division. Besides it dosnt hurt you for me to have a division I want does it? if anything goes in the name of growing the sport.... NO divisions, no rules other than safety related, shoot any rifle, pistol, or rim fire you want. You guys said it, grow or die. Existing customers don't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 IDPA Division? Must draw from concealment, use cover, and Tac reload? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 IDPA Division? Must draw from concealment, use cover, and Tac reload? You must apply the new litmus test..... Will it increase participation? If yes, you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nghthwk1911 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I would like to see any info on Carry Optics adding any level of additinal participation at all. Hell I would like to see the data used by the BOD on even moving it forward as a division. I know at the matches I shoot (6-8 every month) I might see 1 shooter in CO. That is not busting at the seams demand for a new division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I'll play. AR Pistol. There are so many out there in LegoGun Land, it is bound to be a popular match division. I will get with my local holster makers to devise a rig. Concealable version for IDPA, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkm Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I'm thinking what the next few provisional divisions will be. A lot of people like to argue, "what harm does a new provisional division do" so I say let's keep adding them. Why stop at two new divisions when we can have 6 more? Here are the provisional divisions I would like to see: -BUG division. 6 rounds max minor scoring. -Limited Minor 15 -Production 15 -Limited Minor with Optics. 140mm mag -Lever action carbine -Tactical (lights, lasers, etc) -.22 pistol division. Introduce Ultra Minor PF -.22 Rifle division What about pocket rocket. The BUG major division.. There are dozens of tactical timmies that would benefit from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkm Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I would like to see any info on Carry Optics adding any level of additinal participation at all. Hell I would like to see the data used by the BOD on even moving it forward as a division. I know at the matches I shoot (6-8 every month) I might see 1 shooter in CO. That is not busting at the seams demand for a new division. It is the same thing around our area as well. We have actually had more shooters incorrectly scored in CO than actually shooting it since they bought ported dot Tupperware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Taurus Judge division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 I would like to see any info on Carry Optics adding any level of additinal participation at all. Hell I would like to see the data used by the BOD on even moving it forward as a division. I know at the matches I shoot (6-8 every month) I might see 1 shooter in CO. That is not busting at the seams demand for a new division. And the big question on this is were they already a USPSA member before trying out CO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Saying that anything will increase participation has become the infallible justification for any and all changes? " production 17 will increase participation" BOOM you are an isolationist ass if you disagree with the division. Besides it dosnt hurt you for me to have a division I want does it? if anything goes in the name of growing the sport.... NO divisions, no rules other than safety related, shoot any rifle, pistol, or rim fire you want. You guys said it, grow or die. Existing customers don't matter. Nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Lot's of people with anger issues over a new division. I'm not angry. I'm being totally serious. Let's create divisions to appease everyone. If I can only get one division, I'll take Production 15. I know it will help grow the sport. All of my buddies that already are USPSA members and shoot Production will definitely shoot Production 15. I would shoot absolutely shoot it! Me too!!! We already have more people interested in it that CO. I say we make enough noise to make it a provisional division. It seems like that's all you have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmooberry Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Taurus Judge division. Slugs only or I won't be pasting targets anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I would like to see any info on Carry Optics adding any level of additinal participation at all. Hell I would like to see the data used by the BOD on even moving it forward as a division. I know at the matches I shoot (6-8 every month) I might see 1 shooter in CO. That is not busting at the seams demand for a new division. According to Phil, it wasn't about the shooters who wanted Production Optics, it was about giving the plastic gun manufacturers a place where their guns were competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I would like to see any info on Carry Optics adding any level of additinal participation at all. Hell I would like to see the data used by the BOD on even moving it forward as a division. I know at the matches I shoot (6-8 every month) I might see 1 shooter in CO. That is not busting at the seams demand for a new division. According to Phil, it wasn't about the shooters who wanted Production Optics, it was about giving the plastic gun manufacturers a place where their guns were competitive. So then, is the pending PCC division not about shooters who want it, rather, all about rifle manufacturers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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