dogtired Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I am looking at a new pistol and have seen several GM shooters using the CZ 75 shadow not the SP01. Obviously they know what they are doing. What draws them to the lighter pistol where here on the board there are a lot of votes for the heavier SP01? And for those who want to say it, I will ask them next time I shoot with any of them (it could be a while). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Personal preference, transitions vs recoil /flip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Get one of each, then decide. Or if you're like me, keep 'em both since I can't decide which one I like better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillR1 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Get one of each, then decide. Or if you're like me, keep 'em both since I can't decide which one I like better. Yep, same here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastlane604 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I have a 75 Shadow and a Cajunized SP-01. If I could only keep one, it would be the SP-01. My double taps are quicker with the full dust cover. It may be that better shooters can control the muzzle flip on their 75s better than I and thus take advantage of the faster transitions of the lighter gun. I am not to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Personal preference, transitions vs recoil /flip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) SP01, so when you move to limited (2011), the gun weight will be similar. Edited May 15, 2015 by Quack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 SP-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisix Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 My vote is on the full length dust cover version, Shadow or SP-01. I am not a big fan of the lighter weight gun for better transitions idea. Look at Open where they have no problem moving those beasts around. It comes down to practice. You are fully capably of moving as fast and be able to stop as fast with a heavier gun vs lighter gun. Look at the World Shoot. The top three competitors are shooting Stock II, which is heavier then a full length dust cover CZ. All this talk of which small little things is better would be brought out at the top level and weight for transitions is not one of those things. To be fair the same thing is true for recoil control. If you build up your grip strength you will be able to hold either gun flat for quick splits. Now I bring you to the most important factory when you look at the two, which one is sexier. Pick that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmob50 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Following Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Following You know you can click the, "Follow this topic" up in the right corner to follow this, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDPANDA Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I shoot the 75 Shadow for 3 gun and a SP-01 accushadow for USPSA pistol. 3 gun requires more speed and USPSA pistol requires more accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtired Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) So are you able to quantify the increase in speed or the improvement in accuracy for either platform? Looking at your sig line, you have a CZ problem. Edited May 16, 2015 by dogtired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I went through the same debate and at the end of the day I realized that both guns will outshoot my ability so I just went with a stock shadow and did the custom work myself. The only added benefit that I thought the accu would give me was a little extra weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDPANDA Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 So are you able to quantify the increase in speed or the improvement in accuracy for either platform? Looking at your sig line, you have a CZ problem.Target acquisition is different for the 2 sports. I also load/tune different ammo for each gun/sport.3 gun pistol targets are score by neutralizing with 2 hits anywhere which allows me to double tap while transitioning between targets without a powerfactor requirement (gun is still moving as I'm shooting both shots). USPSA pistol is scored by zoned precise hits and has a minimum power factor which requires more time and deliberate thought with each pull of the trigger (gun is somewhat stationary while shooting both shots). Weight of the SP-01 keeps the muzzle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARD72977 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Glad I seen this thread. I going to put a deposit on one or the other from Automatic Accuracy the first of June. I had the chance to dry fire a Automatic Accuracy double action SP-01 at a club match last month. I was worried about the double action trigger pull. After dry firing a tuned gun I know that it would not be a problem. Im getting splits on IDPA head shot splits in the .23-.26 at 7yds with my glock 34 (tracking my sights). I pretty happy with times and know I can improve on them. Just thinking that the 75 shadow would work fine for me. I don't want to buy the wrong one. I have not done this long enough to know if I need the extra weight to reduce my splits or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinn707 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I only both a SP01 (with a highly tuned trigger) and a 75 Shadow also. Since I'm no world class shooter or anything, the recoil feels roughly the same. I have slightly small hands so I prefer the 75 Shadow because it feels slimmer in my hand. If I were to keep one, I'd keep my 75 Shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyaz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I own both as well. And for me, the balance of the 75 is why I prefer it. The SP-01 is a bit nose heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facelessman Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 FWIW... SP01 frame has a beveled mag opening, 75 frame does not. Although I believe the 75 Shadowline frame does have the beveled mag opening. Makes a difference when reloading. Almost certain all of the top level CZ shooters are using SP01 frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malarkey Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I think you can be competitive with either one. I have a SP-01 worked over and one of my buddies has a 75 shadow. I think these are both capable of producing a first place win at nationals in the right hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikelax73 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Get the Sp01 shadow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcarr Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Thinking .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Great post, I just got a sp-01. It's getting canjunized now. I'm leaving a g34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Option # 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I think I need that too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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