Malcolm31 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 So I haven't gotten into reloading yet, but I was thinking about the possibility of getting a 2011. Are there some 2011's on the market that run factory ammo better than others? How about tuning...can a 2011 be tuned well for factory ammo? I got bitten badly by the 3 gun bug and was thinking about a STI Edge in 9mm. I've been shooting a glock 34 and I've been really happy with it, but who doesn't need another blaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The Edge in 9MM should run just fine on factory ammo. No real need to load long with 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-shot Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Stick with that glock, get an sti once you get a dillon, it will thank you. Bullets are more important than the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBolt Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I have to agree with reload first then 2011. I started in USPSA in July 2013. Bought a G34 and ran factory ammo. After several matches a buddy let me try his minor load. Incredible difference. My times dropped significantly. Bought the gear and learned to load. Now have 2 Dillon 650's and just this week upgraded to 2011's. Learn to load now before you get into the 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves_not_here Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 +1 reloader first. You don't save much reloading 9mm but a 125gr on some Clays is SWWEEETTTT!!!! You say you're doing 3-gun so 5.56 will show more savings. I say this especially if you're happy with your G34. You actually have to clean other brands of guns!?!? DNH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaycwebb Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 +1 on reloading first. I got into this game in January of this year and I shoot a Glock 34 (I shoot USPSA and 3 gun.) In may I picked up Dillon 650 and love loading on it. My times, and more importantly, my ability, has improved dramatically once I started to shoot ammo crafted for my gun. IMHO it's as critical as a good set of sights and a good trigger. In a few years, when I buy another gun for USPSA, I'll add a caliber to the 650. Side note- I constantly waffle aboutt he Glock/2011 platform. I do like the 2011 trigger more. I have a Glockworx trigger on my 34 and although it's outstanding it isn't as good as a 2011. What I do love about the glock is the weight. The gun is VERY easy to move around and manuver. I've borrowed a few 2011s and I'm concerned with (for me anyways) how much slower it is to wave the gun around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 So I haven't gotten into reloading yet, but I was thinking about the possibility of getting a 2011. Are there some 2011's on the market that run factory ammo better than others? How about tuning...can a 2011 be tuned well for factory ammo? I got bitten badly by the 3 gun bug and was thinking about a STI Edge in 9mm. I've been shooting a glock 34 and I've been really happy with it, but who doesn't need another blaster? The smart money is on learning to load your own ammo before getting into the 2011 world. But you don't want to hear that do you? Do what makes you happy, just don't expect this crowd to validate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitvpr Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Reloading is fun and it's a great accompaniment to an already great hobby/pass time, get into reloading and move on from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitvpr Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Oh, wait let me give you some load data... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Another vote for getting into reloading first. I started shortly after putting together a custom 17L to squeeze as little recoil as possible out of that gun, and to afford myself to shoot more often. Don't let anyone lie to you and tell you you'll save money by reloading. You're money will go further buying components, but you'll end up shooting more and therefore, spending more. I can typically reload pistol cartridges for about half that of buying factory loads. I have been buying reman Freedom .223 because it's a penny or two per round more than me buying rifle cartridge components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayohee Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 + 1 on reloading first I spent a few thou$and on ammo before realizing that a press would have paid itself off by then. I now have a used Dillon 550 and couldn't be happier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxerbill Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I have reloaded for a few years first and have just now gotten into USPSA. I'm glad i spent money on good gear and reloading first. Then again I shoot revolver and keep my brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal82 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) You can always buy reloaded type ammo from several companies. Minuteman Munitions is one that sells minor power reloads for the competition sports and you can order right off their website. Edited October 9, 2014 by Marshal82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsons1480 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Atlanta Arms and Ammo sells major power factor, long loaded (1.180") 40 S&W. It's not cheap, $0.47/round. You can reload much cheaper, but if you've got money to blow have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm31 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Thanks for the replies. I guess I know I should get into reloading first, but can't help wanting to get another pistol. I guess I'm getting into another hobby...reloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBolt Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Malcom, I just got a new custom Cameron's 9-Major gun last week. Yesterday I spent 5 hours on the range with a chronograph working on a load for it. Without the ability to load your own I can't imagine attempting that with unknown ammo. I used one bullet brand/weight and only two different powders. I will have several more sessions before I find a load best suited for the fun. Loading will teach you a different side to the shooting game. Get your feet wet loading for the guns you have now then venture in to the 2011 world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JASracer Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I agree with the idea to start reloading first. I just got into USPSA this year. I was buying the least expensive ammo that I could. It figured up to about 40 cents per round. I was fortunate enough to be able to borrow a Dillon press. I am now loading rounds for about 13 cents a piece. I have saved over $500 this summer alone, and we don't shoot a lot in this area. The savings will pay for the press. My shooting became more consistent when I started reloading. I have been shooting an XDm. I was able to shoot a fellow competitor's STI at a match a couple of weeks ago. I was amazed at how much better I shot with it. Shooting a 2011 with a quality load is very satisfying, but I think good consistent ammo will make the 2011 worth it. Factory ammo may not make the gun seem as good as you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 If you don't load and you want to buy a $2500 gun, your priorities are messed up. Getting a press will allow you to shoot a lot more. I also disagree with those who say that loading long isn't necessary for an STI. Mine will feed factory ammunition but it's a long way to that chamber and you're just asking for malfunctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctay Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I'll be the one to disagree with the chorus. To a point. If you can afford to buy a press and can find powder you should. However, don't let the lack of a press keep you from am awesome gun. There are plenty of cheap factory 9mm that are at 125-130 power factor and would feel great in a 2011. I shot factory 40 at Multi-gun Nationals this year because I couldn't get powder to load my own. I'll take a 2011 with factory ammo over a Glock with handloads any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfish Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Just buy both. Reloading bayou or bbi bullets and buying once fired brass will save more than enough money to pay for the press after probably 5k rounds so it almost like the press is free since it pays for itself. The only down side is if you buy both at the same time you are making a higher initial investment. Edited October 19, 2014 by bigfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPRSkip Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Taking into consideration the lack of availability of powder today. I say go ahead and buy the 2011 and enjoy it until you can complete the circle and start loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdinga Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Powder supplies are improving in most areas. I agree with the group saying learn to reload first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbagger123 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 9mm minor has the lowest reloading return on investment. One can get it for under 200 these days. It will cost about 100 to 120 to load it with your own brass. If you only shoot a couple of thousand a year it's not worth it. You would have to reload 8 to 10 to recoup the cost of a good reloading setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ftc Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I really enjoy it, but remember reloading isn't for everyone. The benefits are great but it really is another hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 If your pistol won't shoot factory rounds with 100% reliability, send it back to the factory or the smith who built it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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