MrRick Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 This thread sucks. Got a Tristar L-120 that I got for free. this thread makes me want to do all kinds of cuts and stuff. I have one of these. It is a fine pistol for what they cost. Just need to know what I can do with it. Would like to know if I could put a threaded barrel for a comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 I haven't tried it yet, but everything I've played with so far indicates you can use a CZ 6" barrel if you cut the tit off the breech face. I too have a TriStar which is destine for Open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRick Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I was looking at the bushing. I really don't understand why does it have to stick out. Yes really thinking making it a minor open gun for S&G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janskis Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I had already made the decision to get a cz and shoot in Prod altho I started ipsc in open last year with a borrowed trubor. Now after seeing this thread I started considering open again I plan to shoot minor so basically a near stock sp01 shadow, fitted with a magwell and a red dot, would suffice? Ps. I'm on a student budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) I had already made the decision to get a cz and shoot in Prod altho I started ipsc in open last year with a borrowed trubor. Now after seeing this thread I started considering open again I plan to shoot minor so basically a near stock sp01 shadow, fitted with a magwell and a red dot, would suffice? Ps. I'm on a student budget Just red dot and go if you are on a student budget :-) Take the magwell money and instead get a CZ Custom base pad and the follower/spring for one SP01 mag to get it to about 22. That plus your 18 you'll just reload once per stage, and go have fun! You really can just load the 18s up also, but sometimes stage design makes it where you want at least one 20+ round mag to get rid of a reload. FWIW, I take my shadow out open minor all the time, its a LOT of fun. If I don't drop out of the A zone much, my scores for a stage can be right there with the open major guys (who are often struggling to keep a gun running, LOL). Edited January 26, 2016 by trgt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 If you don't already own the Shadow, save some money, buy the base SP01 and remove the firing pin block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janskis Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 If you don't already own the Shadow, save some money, buy the base SP01 and remove the firing pin block. Hmm? What for? I dont think I've seen any base sp01's for sale around here and I really don't understand why I should choose the base sp01 over the shadow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 Shadows fetch a premium because they're Production legal without a firing pin block and because they have upgrades, including the sights, but if you're shooting Open with it, you don't need the sights nor need to be Production legal. It's just a suggestion if you want to save a little money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janskis Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Shadows fetch a premium because they're Production legal without a firing pin block and because they have upgrades, including the sights, but if you're shooting Open with it, you don't need the sights nor need to be Production legal. It's just a suggestion if you want to save a little money. Ah, I understood that "save a little money" differently I thought that you meant that I should save a bit more to buy a more expensive gun Now it suddenly makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janskis Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 If you don't already own the Shadow, save some money, buy the base SP01 and remove the firing pin block. I did a little research and the only base sp01 I found in Finland is €19 less than the shadow and you get 2 mags instead of 3. So apparently it's a no brainer to choose the shadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 Good deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 yeah in europe and other markets SP01s are not that common. the general 'base model' is the SP01 shadow. cost between an SP01 and SP01 shadow in those markets is not that great. for some reason the US suffered from a shortage of plain SP01 shadows (plenty of shadow customs, shadow targets etc) and hence they were more $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 If you don't already own the Shadow, save some money, buy the base SP01 and remove the firing pin block. I did a little research and the only base sp01 I found in Finland is €19 less than the shadow and you get 2 mags instead of 3. So apparently it's a no brainer to choose the shadow But unlike other countries, a stock SP01 Shadow no longer distributed in US. It disappeared from CZ-USA site about 2 years ago. Now the only SP01 Shadows you find are the 'custom' ones for $500 or so more from CZ-Custom or Automatic Accuracy. Those guys get them to refine/upgrade, but really no more for the masses. So the ones left floating around stock/not custom are increasingly rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janskis Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I am having the final paperwork done and soon I should be able to apply for a permit. In other news: My C-More has already arrived with the DAA Quinn horizontal mount and now I am trying to do research on the magazines. Apparently the 75/85 26 round mag is just a bit over 170mm and a no-go. Right now, the most viable option seems to be the stock or mecgar mags with CZC +4 pads. Any better ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 A CZ 18 round tube, long base pad (the one to make a 16 round tube 141mm), and Grams spring/follower gets 25-26 rounds and is your best option for a big stick without welding tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkadi Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) CZ long stick is 177mm, ugly welding job hidden under rubber tube. Tanfoglio Small Frame stick is 170mm exactly. Works for me with 26 rounds and it will feed CZ too. http://www.tanfoglio.it/shop/caricatori/ac001-2-elevatore-clone-2-3.html http://www.ipscstore.eu/en/tanfoglio/1023-tanfoglio-magazine-170mm-9x19mm.html It is available in various calibers including 9x19 despite what the Tanfoglio Online Shop says, and also Large Frame. Pricey, but I like the quality. IPSCStore has a good price on CZ long mag currently http://www.ipscstore.eu/en/cz-75/725-magazine-cz-75-85b-luger-9mm-26-round.html You could use it for training and shinny Tanfoglio one for competition. ;D Though, if you're a leftie, CZ long mag has no cut for magazine catch reversed for left hand :/ WTH CZ? Edited February 5, 2016 by arkadi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) 22 rounds (18 rd + med base pad) 24 rounds (18 rd + long base pad) 28 rounds (2 welded mags / med base pad fit to 170 gauge) 29 rounds (26 round mag plus short base pad, removed rubber bottom, removed metal bottom side indent) The 29 rounds is too long, but seems like someone handy could do something base pad area to get it to fit, and less hassle then having welded. (Although $100 to have them fit / welded doesn't seem bad to me) The 22 and 24 each can jam one more round in to 23/25, but then it's not usable, very tight -- I might not have best spring / follower after seeing John and Stuart's setup/ round counts :-( Edited February 6, 2016 by trgt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 My mag setups. SP01 mag, short pad, 20 SP01 mag, short pad, flat follower/spring, 23 SP01 mag, Lon pad, flat follower/spring, 25 Welded mag w/ short pad 28-29 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my00wrx1 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I am curious as to how the extra wright of a big stick affects the handling and balance of the pistol. I am restricted to 10 round magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazeauRacing Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I originally purchased this P-09 as a Carry Optics gun, but I quickly lost the desire to shoot in that division. Then I saw that Springer Precision came out with their thread-on comp and magwell for the P-09/P-07 and figured it would be fun to put it all together just for shits and giggles. I had to make my own kydex holster for it, and I also modified the factory safety levers into extended levers by melting little dabs of ABS plastic onto them with a soldering iron until there was enough material to shape them into something decent looking. I don't know how competitive this gun would be as an Open gun (or if I'll ever get serious about shooting in Open), but it sure was fun putting it all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open1215 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Man that looks amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilshire1412 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Seriously! That wide ambi setup is exactly what I want for mine. I am surprised that there is nothing available like this on the P07/09 series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r01 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 That looks dope, those safeties look perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Nice work on the safeties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 That's really clean work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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