valkabit Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 At the risk of sounding like a idiot, exactly what is a 2011? I haven't been on this forum in ages, and don't buy gun magazines nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 It usually refers to a high capacity 1911 style pistol using double stack magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Not really. A Para or Springfield hi cap 1911 is not a 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatsauce Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Am I wrong in thinking a 2011 is an STI hi cap 1911? I thought STI created and owns the rights to the "2011" title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) STI and SVI share the patents, which I believe expired only just recently allowing some other companies to make their own versions of the modular frame and grip assembly. As far as I know the name "2011" is only used by STI. Did I get it right? Edited March 9, 2014 by waktasz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 All I know is, to the untrained eye, a 2011 frame doesn't even look like a gun part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Almost right Waktasz, Rock Island Armory has a high cap pistol that is similar to a Para framed gun, only better. It is called a 2011. Rock Island makes some very nice pistols for the money, just ask Mike Seeklander. The patent has ran out on the STI frames , which has opened the door for some very good pistol frames. I have built to customs on RIA guns and have very happy owners. RIA branch of Armscor that makes other frames and slides for some very big names in the industry, you would be surprised who !!! Very good for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gondo Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Almost right Waktasz, Rock Island Armory has a high cap pistol that is similar to a Para framed gun, only better. It is called a 2011. Rock Island makes some very nice pistols for the money, just ask Mike Seeklander. The patent has ran out on the STI frames , which has opened the door for some very good pistol frames. I have built to customs on RIA guns and have very happy owners. RIA branch of Armscor that makes other frames and slides for some very big names in the industry, you would be surprised who !!! Very good for the money. Well...who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) I don't want to imply anything...but the people I have heard of shooting Armscor stuff are doing it because they are on the payroll. Maybe they are more popular than I know of...but I've never seen one in person. Edited March 14, 2014 by waktasz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 a 2011 is basically a double stack (aka hi-capacity) 1911 type firearm (single action only, grip safety etc), with a full length dust cover, no stirrup cuts etc. very square, wide looking 1911 basically. google some pics of "STI 2011" or "STI Edge" and then google some pics of "1911 A1" and you'll soon see the differences and the similarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 That's not correct at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 That's not correct at all.for sure. Sounds like a slab side edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick88 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 The short answer to your question is that the only gun with 2011 stamped on the frame is an STI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Well we know that Armscor makes STI's Spartan line of pistols. But yes, the 2011 was STI's modular framed high cap evolution of the 1911. The patten was shared between STI and SVI until recently when it expired opening the door to others such as CK Arms and Pheonix Trinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkrad1935 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 As I understand it. Para started making hi cap 1911. Out of steel so the grip was noticably larger. Virgil Tripp and sandy strayer made one out of polymer and it had same size as normal 1911. They formed STI. Stayer left to form SVI. And later Tripp left to form Tripp research. Tripp and strayer shared the patent. That is all I knoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcales Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 my son shoots in youth ASAP matches and wants to shoot the 1911/2011 class. Does a CZ Shadow 2 qualify as a 2011? Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1911 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 2011 was the model designation of STI's original two-part frame, which was essentially a steel 1911 upper section and detachable polymer grip designed for double stack magazines . It's now used generically to refer to frames of the same design, including those with metal grips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styro Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) Wasn't the design swiped from Tripp/SVI? Edited June 14, 2020 by Styro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 It _IS_ the Strayer / Tripp design. Which became TRI->STI->Stacatto and SVI->Infinity (and maybe a SV in there somewhere too I think) with a brief early detour through "CMC" all on a shared patent for a modular pistol frame (separate grip module and rail section-- thus different from Para), which expired several years ago. At one time STI trademarked "2011" for use on pistols but I believe the generic word mark is dead now. https://patents.google.com/patent/US5293708A Check out the Cited-by... pretty much a whos-who of the gun business there all filing their patents on their slightly different polymer guns.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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