OscarMike Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Hard to see on my phone... The serial isn't near that front loading port, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowashooter Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Well at least this way I cant say I created any problems. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowashooter Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 It is on the left side and that side isn't as deep as the non s/n side. It makes it a little mor dificult to quad weak hand but it is still managable. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Lol that's true. Thanks for the info iowa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Early on the VM had some issues with the FP retainer but they corrected that. The clamp and thin tube with lose threads was also a problem fixed by a Versatube. There can be a sharp edge here and there, but once fixed they run like a top. I have had maybe 4 or 5 malfunctions when the bolt handle hit a prop. Otherwise I can't make it fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaky Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 uploadfromtaptalk1400544171475.jpg This is the carrier latch I wrapped a shell in 400 grit wet or dry and sanded where the crease is stamped. I then went to 600 then polished with flitz and felt buffing wheel on the dremel. uploadfromtaptalk1400544301637.jpg A diferent angle. Take this slow take some material off put it back together and try loading it can be a fine line between loading smooth and having to get a new latch. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for. Should have the gun in my hands by the end of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45shooter Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Yes the thread pattern is the same. I have a nordic plus 4 extension on mine and it works great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowashooter Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Yes the thread pattern is the same. I have a nordic plus 4 extension on mine and it works great You have the Nordic Versamax extension on your one peice 8 round tube, or do you have a 870/1100/1187? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradgsxr Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I have to agree with Mark, the Versa Max is much easier to load and is the softest shooting 12 gauge shotgun I have ever shot by far. It's only weakness is weight, it has been the most reliable gun I have owned and eats any ammo ( I don't buy stuff with crappy crimps etc.. ) but velocity etc... does not matter, it will shoot it - I have owned a 1301 also and did all the port mods etc..., it is by no means a bad gun, just not as nice as my Versa IMO - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Where in the Colorado Springs or Denver areas are there one of these to get some hands on with? Anyone local mind me putting some fingerprints on their gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soterik Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I have a new VM Competition and think it will be a great shottie once I get the loading problem fixed. Right now, the shell is getting stuck on the lifter. I think this is the same problem them others are having. The lifter is too high and interferes with entry into the mag tube. My shells literally get stuck (see pic) and it takes a good deal of pressure to push them over the lifter. Question to those that have done this (Iowashooter) is: Should I file down the hump on the outside of the lifter or file the inside where the lifter contacts the bolt carrier? or both? I want to do as little as possible since you can't addd material back on once you take it off. Where should I start? Where does the lifter contact the carrier? Is it the 2 "rails" on each side I would file? Also, the shells are catching on something once they get past the lifter. I assume that is the shell catch. I will probably file that down some like Iowashooter did but want to address the lifter issue first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowashooter Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I filed the back of the lifter and just the 2 edges that contacted the bolt carrier. It really doesn't take much. I also filed sanded and polished the front edge of thw lifter as it was irritating my thunb because it was a little jagged. I posted picturws of my lifter a few posts back. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Posts like that make me not want to get a VM. I want something that will not be a hassle out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soterik Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Thanks Iowashooter. I saw your pictures (and printed them out) but couldn't tell exactly where you filed. I'll start by just filing the 2 "rails" on the inside of the lifter and see how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofagator Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Posts like that make me not want to get a VM. I want something that will not be a hassle out of the box. I'm starting to feel the same. I thought this was the one to get me into the sporting shuotgun area, but I have zero smithing abilities and dont want to get stuck with a big hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowashooter Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Posts like that make me not want to get a VM. I want something that will not be a hassle out of the box.I have yet to see anything 100% race ready put of the box. Unless you buy a taran tactical or something like that. You could go with an MOA precision m3000 and Tom takes care of all the hassles for you and ita less than the VM, 1301 or m2.Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowashooter Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 If you can pull a trigger group out of a shotgun you can modify the lifter. The shell latch is a little less everyday but is still very simple. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropsitos Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Posts like that make me not want to get a VM. I want something that will not be a hassle out of the box.I have yet to see anything 100% race ready put of the box. Unless you buy a taran tactical or something like that. You could go with an MOA precision m3000 and Tom takes care of all the hassles for you and ita less than the VM, 1301 or m2.Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk True that. You either have to do the work or pay someone to do the work. My Beretta required a bunch of filing to get load 2 weak hand to work at all (maybe you can load it stock with some other method). It's good now and really not that much work, nor does it require much skill, but taking a file to a 1k shotgun the second day you have it not really enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaranTactical Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Posts like that make me not want to get a VM. I want something that will not be a hassle out of the box.I have yet to see anything 100% race ready put of the box. Unless you buy a taran tactical or something like that. You could go with an MOA precision m3000 and Tom takes care of all the hassles for you and ita less than the VM, 1301 or m2.Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quoting this for truth. No gun will be absolutely ready out of the box. We've had people ask why they need all the work we do on their Benelli, get it back, and claim they could never go stock again. This is because manufacturers need to find a median specification for all uses. A three gun shotgun will function very differently than a shotgun tuned for other activities. A good rule of thumb that I've heard repeated would be to tack on at least the full price of the gun to the retail price for aftermarket work. Getting a good platform and having it done right is a ' cry once and never again ' sort of ordeal. If you purchase cheap and get cheap work done, you're going to constantly have problems and be outperformed by similarly skilled shooters with more reliable and better functioning equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowashooter Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Posts like that make me not want to get a VM. I want something that will not be a hassle out of the box.I have yet to see anything 100% race ready put of the box. Unless you buy a taran tactical or something like that. You could go with an MOA precision m3000 and Tom takes care of all the hassles for you and ita less than the VM, 1301 or m2.Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk True that. You either have to do the work or pay someone to do the work. My Beretta required a bunch of filing to get load 2 weak hand to work at all (maybe you can load it stock with some other method). It's good now and really not that much work, nor does it require much skill, but taking a file to a 1k shotgun the second day you have it not really enjoyable. That is one thing I really like bout the VM competition tactical. I didn't need to file the port so the finish is still intact and I like the looks of the green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Anyone in colorado have one of these I could look at and feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDragon64 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I ran 2 boxes of 1145 fps 8 shot and my VM didn't miss a lick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Said eff it, and bought one from Bull Shooter's. It'll be in next week. He said his distributor has 3 more left if anyone is looking for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowashooter Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Congrats I am confident you will love it. If you have any questions about the tweeks give me a PM. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Thanks man. I appreciate it. Nice thing is, my pops liked the 1301 so much, he picked one up at cabelas! So if I like it more.... We might have to switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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