Lobonca Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) I shoot IDPA and steels. I have been using 115 gr. bullets and just recently tried the 147 gr. and have MUCH tighter groups. It seems a lot of good shooters also use the 124 gr. What do you recommend? Use Montana Gold CMJ and Titegroup. Any load suggestions for the 124 and 147 are appreciated. I have an M&P Pro 9mm. Edited February 5, 2012 by Lobonca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 ...I've come to prefer the "push" style of recoil impulse the 147g bullet gives me verses the "snap" recoil impulse I get from a 115/124g bullet. Feel is an important factor in making a choice as well as group size with feel being a very personal issue. My suggestion shoot them both and use what you "feel" is the right choice for you. I hope this helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyreb Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I just finished loading my first batch of 500 Zero 147 gr FMJ. Been shooting 124s for the past few years as I have found heavier bullets are more accurate in glocks, my wife's M&P a couple 1911s and most recently a SA 5.25. For me personally, at the range I see only marginal differences between 147s and 124s. I realize others feel quite differently though. I have experienced an abnormally high rejection rate loading the 147s on my 550. (> 15%) The rejection rate improved a little when I increased OAL to 1.14. The cases with the 147s all have a noticable bulge. Bottom line, I am going back to 124s. They are a little cheaper and I will be spending far less time pulling bullets and reloading the culls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkguy Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 im on a bit of a tight reloading budget and i couldnt justify jumping to 147 gr bullets. I use 124 gr Berrys and occasionally Zero's. Im using mixed brass, CCI 500 primers and 3.85 grs of tight group @ 1.11 COL. Im getting 133-135 pf out of my P30L and i expect to get about 134-136PF out of my STI spartan and i might back down the charge to 3.7-3.8 grs to drop my power factor down a bit closer 130ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowhand23 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I shoot IDPA and steels. I have been using 115 gr. bullets and just recently tried the 147 gr. and have MUCH tighter groups. It seems a lot of good shooters also use the 124 gr. What do you recommend? Use Montana Gold CMJ and Titegroup. Any load suggestions for the 124 and 147 are appreciated. I have an M&P Pro 9mm. 3.4g of Titegroup under a MG 147 CMJ produces a 130PF in my M&P9 Pro at 1.14 OAL. 4.0g behind the MG 124 CMJ produces similar results. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeyedme Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I run 147 Bayou Bullets for USPSA and steel - loaded with vv N330 @135pf, it's laser accurate in my P226 and knocks down steel nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Hello: I like the Montana Gold 121gr IFP with Tite Group. They seem to shoot very well in Glocks, CZ, XD and a friends M&P pro. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sroe3 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I load Bear Creek Moly 125 TC, Universal, CCI, with mixed brass for USPSA and steel. Runs well in the XD and FNP. Light shooting, little smoke, under $5 per 50 when buying in volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfish Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I like 147gr with tightgroup, I have also read some people like 160gr but Ive never tried them. Some people say the heavier bullets knock down steel better. The last couple years I shot .40 and in Sept witched to 9mm so everything I load is cheaper then I was used of. I dont think that $.01 per bullet if not less on a bulk order should determine what wieght to shoot. 124gr vs 147gr saves what? $10 or so on a 1000 round order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Taliani Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I personally prefer the feel of 147s, though they feel very slow compared to my 9 major open gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAB81 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I just shot a USPSA match a couple weekends ago (Production, GEN 4 G17), using several different loads. I haven't gotten a chance to chrono them yet, but they should all be around 135pf. Berrys 147gr/3.5gr Titegroup/1.135 OAL Zero 124gr JHP/4.1gr Titegroup/1.125 OAL Zero 124gr JHP/4.8gr WST/1.125 OAL Zero 124gr JHP/5.1gr WSF/1.125 OAL I'll throw my disclaimer that I don't have a ton of competition shooting experience, but I humbly consider myself a mid-level shooter. I could not tell a difference in feel between any of these loads during the match. On a trip to an indoor range prior to this match, I decided that the 124gr/TG load was probably going to be it for me. It felt the best, and was the most accurate for me by a small margin. The 124gr/WSF load seemed to have the most felt recoil, but was right on par with the TG load's accuracy. I almost wrote that load off. I didn't like the feel of the WST load at all, but accuracy was good. During the match, I ended up shooting the 124/WSF load the best. I had more "A" zone hits with that load, I felt faster, an the sights seemed to track better for me. I decided to stay with the 124's, but I will continue my testing with the WSF & TG loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Hey Jonathan, going to open huh? I only tried a handful of 147's, but I couldn't tell the difference. I would like to try more of them later on, but for now 124's are cheaper so that's what I'm shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_P Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I definitely prefer the 147's. The push feel is far superior in my hands. 124's perform great and are definitely usable, but as always it comes back to personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Try some WW 130gr Super bullets. They are .356 and have proven to be more accurate in a lot of 9mm pistols. Edited February 14, 2012 by Steve RA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockCanMan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I use MG 147's with N320. I have tried 115's and 124's, but nothing compares to the 147's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I use MG 147's with N320. I have tried 115's and 124's, but nothing compares to the 147's. 135gr BayouBullet puts 147's to shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I think if you talk to enough experienced Production shooters you will find many who tried 147's but eventually settled on 124's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockCanMan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I use MG 147's with N320. I have tried 115's and 124's, but nothing compares to the 147's. 135gr BayouBullet puts 147's to shame. I have heard good things about the 135gr Bayou bullet. I just ordered a thousand the other day to try out. But it will be a couple of months before I get a chance to load them up and try them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Well I decided that I need to try some more 147's before the start of the season, so I ordered a sample pack from Precision Delta. I'm very happy with the quality of their 124gr, so I'll be able to do a side-by-side comparison. I haven't dipped into lead yet, not sure if I'm going to or not, but I have heard plenty of good things about Bayou Bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeyedme Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 135gr BayouBullet puts 147's to shame. I really like Donnie's 147's. What do you like about the 135 vs the 147? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I shoot IDPA and steels. I have been using 115 gr. bullets and just recently tried the 147 gr. and have MUCH tighter groups. It seems a lot of good shooters also use the 124 gr. What do you recommend? Use Montana Gold CMJ and Titegroup. Any load suggestions for the 124 and 147 are appreciated. I have an M&P Pro 9mm. Scince your M&P gets MUCH tighter groups with 147's I personally would look no fuurther. If the accuracy were not an issue (all giving equal good accuracy) the 124's are a great compromise of knockdown efficiancy and ease of reloading. I find the 147's a pain to reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobonca Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Why do you find them a pain to reload? I don't think they are any harder or more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) I use MG 147's with N320. I have tried 115's and 124's, but nothing compares to the 147's. 135gr BayouBullet puts 147's to shame. I have heard good things about the 135gr Bayou bullet. I just ordered a thousand the other day to try out. But it will be a couple of months before I get a chance to load them up and try them. They are as accurate as the 147's, cheaper, and I like the feel better, at the same pf there is less recoil, IMHO, YMMV. It could also be that since I shoot open a lot I like the quicker recoil impulse. As far as reloading goes, the Jacketed 124's are easiest since I can use the bullet feeder, everthing else is the same effort. Edited February 17, 2012 by CocoBolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Why do you find them a pain to reload? I don't think they are any harder or more difficult. More specifically I find a much higher reject rate when case gaging. I gage every bullet. Pulling bullets is part of the work of reloading and I hate that with a passion. For me 124's are as accurate as147's and I had one pull in the last 1000 due to a split case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I tried some Bayou Bullet 135's behind 3.9 of AA2 today, and they shot great. PF was 132 @ 1.150 on my test last month, but today I loaded them to 1.130 and they were more accurate. Felt really good, and the sight tracked great. Ran them through the Shadow, PM9, EAA, and HK P30. Very impressed with the feel and accuracy. Was able to clean the plate rack several times and head shots at 15 yds was all in the square box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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