Youngeyes Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Just when I thought I was over "stupid" I go and dump a half a powder measure worth of H-110 into about 3.5 pounds of W231. I hate to trash that much powder. Could use some advise. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too_Slow Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 You are going to have to get rid of them sorry to say. No matter how similar powders may be (and those two are very different) there is nothing that can be done when they get mixed. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 For your own sake, dump it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidnal Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I did that earlier this year, dumped a hopper titegroup into some 7625. Fortunately the combined weight was less than a pound but it had to be tossed it either way. Trash it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Start a jug of WTF powder, to be used only for non-reloading purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Been there done that with VV N350 and WST. I just poked 1/4" piece of copper tube into the bottom of the container and drained it out a cup at a time till I saw the first flake of WST. The appearance of the powder is very different and I had not shaken or turned the jug upside down. The rest went up in smoke. It is better to be cautions than take chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Just dump it. Period. Powder is cheap. Your life is priceless, and your medical bills are far more expensive than buying some more powder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Flower bed fertilizer. Or just make a really cool backyard bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreblePlink Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Save it for the 4th of July ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amerflyer48 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 another vote for dump it,.. I store powders across the room in a locker,.. only 1 container on the bench at a time... for me it was a hopper of Bullseye into 2 Lbs of WSL you can now say you belong to the "done it" group not the "someday he will" group... John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 hope this is not a hijack how about same powder different lots ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I go and dump a half a powder measure worth of H-110 into about 3.5 pounds of W231. It has to be safer to dump it, but just wondering out loud, "with a Very Light load, in a very large cartridge case (.357) and a very strong pistol, is it really that unsafe to try one?" Say, 3 grains under a light bullet, in a .357? Worth asking the powder companies? They blend powders, from what I hear. Flame away ... Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 hope this is not a hijack how about same powder different lots ? Depends on the powder! Some lots are close in manufacturing then there is Solo 1000. Using a powder measure I usually wind up with a partial cyclinder that goes into a new canister. When it happens then it is back to load testing to see how the mix performs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amerflyer48 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Hi-Power Jack HP38 and WW231 are the same thing. H110 and WW296 are also identical to each other HS6 is the old 540 and HS7 is the old 571 231 and 296 are worlds different on the burn rate chart,.. I wouldn't try it.. my hands/firearmsare worth wayyy more than the $20-$30.00 savings trying to salvage powder Light loads of 296 (H110) are Legendary,..for the wrong reasons.... almost as bad as a heavy charge of 231.. Juan> I used to mix lots,..you just have to be careful no sparks etc. and make sure ONLY that powder type is open on the bench,..you mix a pound of one with a different powder you get 2 pounds of fertilizer.... Back when I loaded Hi Power Rifle I would mix all my IMR 4895 and then return to the cans marked common lot "Garand-1" and work up a load then go a whole season, later I did that with my 10mm and a quantity of WSL since Winchester had the same problem as quoted by LPatterson and his Solo 1000 experience.. I can't say you should or should not do it, thats up to you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 + 1 to dump the mixed powder. Sometimes a mistake comes with a cost, and in this case it is 3.5 lbs of ww231 and some H110. But the lesson, as has been mentioned, is to only keep the powder you are currently working with on the bench. As far as salvaging it, in my book the risk is not worth whatever might be gained. I suppose if you could thoroughly mix the powders and you had some need for 5000+ mouse fart loads in something strong like a TC contender, and you were willing to work up that load for that gun, then it might be a consideration. However, ??? factor would always be in the back of your mind. I'm betting that you never do this again! As for mixing lots, I agree it depends on the powder as Mr. Patterson stated. Some powders are super consistent between lots (ww231) and some aren't (AA2230, somewhat for AA#7). The AA2230 loads I used in the late 80's are not the ones I use today. I try to finish off as much as reasonably possible of a lot before starting another, and with powders known to have lot-to-lot variance I'll load some trial rounds and chronograph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 Looks like the mixed powder is history. Thanks to the forum for giving me good advise and not derision. You people were more concerned with my safety. Walk the walk. I like that. Ok, my lawn just made major PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodell Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Looks like the mixed powder is history. Thanks to the forum for giving me good advise and not derision. You people were more concerned with my safety. Walk the walk. I like that. Ok, my lawn just made major PF. Yep. Don't put it on Momma's flowers unless you water the drop. It will burn them (not in the fire sense). Same with your lawn, unless you spread it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Looks like the mixed powder is history. Thanks to the forum for giving me good advise and not derision. You people were more concerned with my safety. Walk the walk. I like that. Ok, my lawn just made major PF. Yep. Don't put it on Momma's flowers unless you water the drop. It will burn them (not in the fire sense). Same with your lawn, unless you spread it out. Well duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knight Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I made a really cool model rocket using leftovers. Simple model rocket kit but no parachute. just a lot of mixed powder and some black powder. Thank god it went straight up cuz... It was really loud.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoleroJesse Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I've got a few ideas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axeman Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 simply dump it to be safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knight Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 simply dump it to be safe Fun killer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Flower bed fertilizer. Or just make a really cool backyard bomb. There ya go - burn it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkin Chunker Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 hope this is not a hijack how about same powder different lots ? I'll mix same powder/same lot when I have leftover in one container and reloading to finish. I keep same powder/different lots separated just in the unlikely event there is a recall on a powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I burned a small amount of powder that I accidentally mixed together in the hopper; made a flame 4-5 feet high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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