North Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 It is a sad day when the military distributes this message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 The US Military - when faced by someone with a gun.... Follow these instructions. Jesus Wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Do these instruction apply when deployed overseas in an active combat zone or just when you are "safe". Holy Moly what the hell is going on. Arm them to the teeth, No where is there anything along the lines of kill the bastard, sorry, return fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 What else can I say.......???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Jesus isn't the only one weeping... Shaking my head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Very sad. IF/BEING our soldiers can be trusted with firearms in other peoples cities, why can't they be trusted in OUR cities and bases???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I have just begun screaming inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I am retired Army. It has always been the United States UNarmed Forces. Even after 9/11... no ammunition was issued to go with the M16s issued for increased security. In Berlin during the first Gulf war, 3 rounds were issued, but the tops of the magazine were sealed with tape. Seriously, no joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I am retired Army. It has always been the United States UNarmed Forces. Even after 9/11... no ammunition was issued to go with the M16s issued for increased security. In Berlin during the first Gulf war, 3 rounds were issued, but the tops of the magazine were sealed with tape. Seriously, no joke.3 rounds! Now that right there is funny. I remember the days of border duty in Germany we had our magazines taped as well. Woe be unto the poor mf'er who stripped a round out of a magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Two words.... Strap Up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I understood the reasons behind not arming the masses on base, but I never agreed. This is affirmation, you can't raise wolves and then pin them like sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffWard Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) I've always been personally safer in my own home, than on base. At home, I can carry. I wonder if there are carry restrictions on an Israeli Military base???? Ah... Doubt it. We are slowly becoming no safer than the Middle East. Because we are allowing it in our own FRONT yard. Jeff Edited November 11, 2009 by JeffWard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chendersby Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 It is a sad day when the military distributes this message. If I were king of the world the above email would have read, "Find the bastard and shoot him....a lot" This country is clearly going down the wrong path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-10_shooter Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Makes you wonder just how free we are..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPIC24 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Item 3 in take action "throw items at the active shooter" WHAT A SHOE! should read pull out 45 and handle it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickB Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Did the military "distribute" it? I see a Dept. of Homeland Security logo at the bottom, but nothing there refers to the armed forces or DoD. It looks like something that would be posted in an office building or retail store, with references to "staff" and "customers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 That is f#&ked up on so many levels. Scotty, beam my ass up. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) As ready by Mr Rogers When is trouble , when in doughty, run in circles , scream and shout. Edited November 12, 2009 by AlamoShooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 "I wonder if there are carry restrictions on an Israeli Military base????Ah... Doubt it." Funny thing, I was thinking this very thing just this week........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I am retired Army. It has always been the United States UNarmed Forces. Even after 9/11... no ammunition was issued to go with the M16s issued for increased security. In Berlin during the first Gulf war, 3 rounds were issued, but the tops of the magazine were sealed with tape. Seriously, no joke. The USAF never followed that lead. We carried M16s with a loaded 30rd mag in the gun, chamber empty and our M9s were with a round in the chamber, safety off. The Marines are even worse...they safety wire the mag pouch closed! The quote "act with physical aggression and throw items at the shooter" makes me want to vomit. I get not arming the masses in peacetime, stateside, but that doesn't mean they couldn't come up with some sort of qualification process to make it so that pretty much anywhere you go on base at least a couple of people are armed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 Did the military "distribute" it? I see a Dept. of Homeland Security logo at the bottom, but nothing there refers to the armed forces or DoD. It looks like something that would be posted in an office building or retail store, with references to "staff" and "customers". It was attached to this email. I deleted the Majors name out of pity. The "backshop" people he refers to are the security forces not actually on patrol. No one other than security forces will be armed. _________________________________________________________________ Commanders / Chiefs / First Sergeants: In light of yesterday's events at Fort Hood, I am sending you the attached Department of Homeland Security flyer which outlines actions to take for self protection in such a situation. Please share this with your personnel. For your situational awareness, we regularly train our Defenders in how to respond to an active shooter and maintain close working relationships with the various tactical response teams in the local area. Just this week we conducted a joint exercise in the dormitory area with the FBI, SFS and County Crisis Negotiation Teams. In the coming months we will continue to train our personnel in how to respond to dangerous situations like this. Additionally, effective today we started arming our back shop personnel effectively tripling the number of armed first responders available to respond immediately in a crisis. If you have any questions, concerns or comments please let me know. MAJ, USAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 1994 Fairchild AFB, WA. Had a guy go ballistic with a MAK-90 in the psych wing of the clinic. 4 died, many wounded. There were LE in the hospital when it went down, but they wern't armed due to AF policy requiring LE to dis-arm for any medical attention, no matter how trivial. BTW, I violated this policy all the time when I was in... Never had a problem except with a nurse once. I gave her the Jedi mind trick and she left me alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 This Hate rant has turned into a discussion, which is beyond the bounds of the rules for the Hate Forum. Thus, it must be closed. Please review the Hate Forum Rules: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8097 [note: this is a generic response] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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