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  1. As I described, there was a stage that didn't comply with the rules; too many rounds required on a "standards type" stage beyond 25 yards. No issue other than the targets being nine feet too far from the firing line (or three too many rounds required; pick). As the MD was walking to the mic to announce, "We have a match" - after preliminary results had been posted, and after announcing that if there were no more appeals, the match would be considered final - someone stopped him and told him the stage was illegal. (As I went out to pace off the target distance) the MD then mulled the option of deciding that the appeal period had ended so it was too late to challenge the stage. Since he had not yet announced that no more appeals would be heard, he decided to "consider" the appeal. The MD then went on the PA and asked the assembled crowd if they wanted to go ahead with the results, or toss the stage and recalculate the results. That was a matter of expediency; do people want to wait another half-hour for results, or go ahead? I'd estimate that the show of hands indicated that 75% wanted to proceed with the illegal stage included in the results. After announcing that they'd proceed with the existing results, and about five minutes of animated pacing, the MD said, "We can't do that, I'm tossing the stage!", anticipating complaints about going forward when it was known that the stage was illegal. He did not confer with the stats guys, there was no, "How will this affect the results?", it was just a matter of integrity. The preliminary results are posted in a format that makes it difficult for people to know how they'd performed; listed alphabetically, with raw times and penalties. If someone wanted to know how well they had done, relatively, they'd have to do the math on all of their own stages, and then do the same for anyone else whose score they wanted for comparison. Lots of people dropped 10-20 points on the stage, so a lot of people would benefit from it being tossed; so many that it might not have any beneficial impact on shooter X vs. Y. The final results were not posted prior to the stage being tossed, so anyone who thinks they lost positions in the standings would have had to calculate it on their own, reintroducing a stage not included in the finals. It could be as easy as, "Hey, how many points did you drop on stage 13? Ten? I dropped two, so I would have beaten you if it hadn't been tossed!" I'm sure there was some of that, but there'd be no reason to ask prior to the stage being dropped. I do question why someone would wait until literally the last second to appeal, but that person's motives don't really matter if scores and standings are corrected as a result (right?). The rule book says stages may be challenged any time prior to the final results being "posted", which suggests that someone could challenge a stage even after awards are presented, if the final results had not been, say, stapled to a tree somewhere where competitors could see it. I commend the MD for doing the right thing in tossing the illegal stage, but it is interesting that there seem to be as many questions about motives for doing so as there might have been if he'd just said, "Screw it, I don't feel like being here for another half hour", and leaving the stage in the results?
  2. I don't know how funny it was, but yeah, I designed the stage; no more than six shots allowed at more than 25 yards, and it measured 28 yards. I'll take the blame for not pacing it off, but why wait for two days, two hours, preliminary results, stage tear-down, an "If there are no more scoring challenges . . ." announcement, and then mention it?
  3. There's a lot of additional work for the match organizers as the tier levels go up, but not much benefit to the shooters. We ran a tier 3 last year, and about the only difference between a 3 and a 4 is that we'd have to add one more staff member per shooting location. We have 30+ certified SOs already, and I didn't see any benefit to getting ten more.
  4. RickB

    BUG legal?

    Exactly. There are some guns that will fit in the box but aren't legal, but in general, guns without wide controls on both sides of the slide or frame, and with barrel no longer than 3.6" are legal. Be sure to measure the barrel, and measure it a couple of different ways; measure the bare barrel, and also run something graduated down the bore, because you will probably see both methods. I just bought a "four inch" gun for CCP, and the barrel is actually 4.15", so not legal for CCP (at matches measuring barrels).
  5. They wouldn't know that a reload was going to be needed. All of the reloading rules revolve around the expectation that in a "real gunfight", nobody would know when there's a round in the chamber but not one in the mag, that the shot you're about to fire is the last one before reloading, etc.
  6. I was performing a slidelock reload, and the slide wouldn't drop with the slide release, or via sling-shot. Somehow, I'd managed to flip the thumb safety up into the take-down notch, so the only way to drop the slide was to flip the safety off. I don't shoot many matches with the HP, but probably two or three a year for fifteen years, and I've never seen anything like that. Ride the safety when reloading as well as when shooting!
  7. What's the point of the black tape outline, to signify that pass-throughs don't score? I also have single-eye focus at work, with the strong eye corrected to front-sight distance, but my weak eye is corrected to infinity, so seeing downrange is not a problem; you don't have both eyes corrected for near vision?
  8. They didn't really have to anticipate it, they should have just not allowed the changes in SSP that result in 2# triggers. IPSC has been enforcing Production rules that don't allow even an aftermarket recoil spring, and SSP should be treated the same way; STOCK service pistols.
  9. We've used it a few times for allowing individual guns or calibers that don't fit in any particular division, but have not created any standing NFC divisions that we run every month. When it looked like ESR was going to disappear, the ESR guy was unhappy, so I thought we could just continue to run ESR as an NFC division every month. What if "Load your gun to physical capacity" was an every-match NFC? Popular?
  10. And if you read the fine print, you will find lots of opportunities to perform moving reloads even when you are not in a room or hall. 3.6.4 says you can't reload while moving across open ground (a room or hall minus one wall?), but you are allowed to re-engage targets while moving that were previously engaged from cover, so you leave cover with one round in the gun, dump that round on the target that you just engaged from cover, and because you've run dry in the open, you are allowed to reload. If there's a target between you and where you are going, you are often going to be able to arrange for a moving reload, room/hall or not. Sorry, the "fine print" comment was not supposed to be literal; how do I change the font size??
  11. The BUG gun that I've been using the last fifteen years - 3.5", 6+1, steel-framed .45 - is not legal for either BUG or CCP. It's too heavy and too wide for BUG, and too wide for CCP, unless I can get a full +1/6" on box depth. I measured four of my 1911s across the ambi safeties, and only the narrowest one (Wilson narrow/tactical) is at the legal width. If I can add 1/16", then a Cylinder & Slide tactical is legal. Kimber, Springfield, or anything resembling the Ed Brown is going to be too wide unless one or both paddles are trimmed.
  12. That why it would have made a lot more sense to put all striker-fired guns in ESP, rather than putting them all in SSP.
  13. I was watching a Major League baseball game last night; some of the strikes called were strikes, and some were not. It's the nature of calls made by humans in every sport. I've never played or officiated a sport that was any other way; have you?
  14. There was an AC conference call last night, and about twenty minutes of it was devoted to sanctioned matches; how to get it approved, how to set up the match information at idpa.com, etc. I'd suggest calling Robert Ray. In the absence of an AC, Robert will be doing the stage approval, so you'll have to contact him eventually, anyway.
  15. but running down a hallway towards known cardboard targets while reloading is a reasonable idea if you are playing a game whose object is to shoot stuff fast. Maybe you can start a new sport, called something like "Search and Destroy"?
  16. Between 2002 and 2013, the Washington state IDPA match usually still had slots five months after registration opened. This year, we bumped capacity an additional ten shooters, and it filled in seven weeks. There hasn't been an Oregon match for a few years, so there aren't many west-coast sanctioned matches to shoot.
  17. yes. flat out dumb. It was a response to some even dumber things. People intentionally running their gun dry, in a defensive context, is dumb. Leaving a cover position with an empty gun, reloading as you run across open ground, is dumb. Running down a hallway, toward known threats, often with an empty gun, is dumb. Once we get a definition of "leave" from HQ, it's possible the flat-footed reload won't look much different from old reloads; if you can lift one foot prior to initiating the reload, and lift the other foot after, you have a full step to perform the reload without "advancing".
  18. Ken Reed started a poll here, a few years ago, and IIRC, more than half the people who responded to the poll, never shoot IDPA. It's not so much a forum for IDPA, as about IDPA.
  19. Butterpuc - Loads that make major with Clays powder are a few tenths below max for both 185gr and 230gr bullets, but I need a max load to comfortably make major with 200s. With some bullets and some barrels, it's not possible to make major with Clays and 200gr bullets, without exceeding the max recommended load.
  20. Announcing the opening of registration for the Blade-Tech 2014 Washington State IDPA Championship Match. Please visit the official state match website for match details and to register online at http://nwppa-idpa.com/waidpac14/index.php . If you have any questions, please contact the match director at waidpastatematch@gmail.com. Basic Information WHO: Sponsored by Blade-Tech WHAT: 13 - 15 Stages, 150+ rounds minimum (be prepared to chrono) WHEN: Sat-Sun, 16-17 Aug 2014: Shooting starts promptly at 9:00AM. NO MATCH DAY ENTRIES! WHERE: The Renton Fish & Game Club in Renton, Washington FOOD: Sat lunch included in match fee.
  21. That's the local tribe doing it's thing, not an IDPA rule. Unless it's a misinterpretation of not being allowed "to stand in the port" rule? "In" the port?
  22. If you want to drive all the way to Albany, OR, there's a class on May 3.
  23. My first was a surplus G.I. Colt that had belonged to my dad. 25 years ago, when such guns were $500 "shooters", rather than $1500 collectibles, it was common to use them as base guns for competition. Mine had pretty minimal modifications, with a match bushing, trigger job, and adjustable sights. I was using it for both IDPA CDP, and USPSA Limited (I was all tactical, with my 8-round mags and 190pf ammo). First ESP is/was a Colt Delta Elite. Another "statement", with 8-round mags and 225pf ammo. I bought a S&W Thunder Ranch 22 just for ESR competition. I've never owned a gun that's legal or SSP.
  24. The new Not For Competition division could be utilized to create whatever is desired in the way of a "real gun" requirement. While I think NFC will mostly be used to allow new shooters to compete with a non-compliant gun ("Sure, you can shoot your compensated .380 today"), I'll use it to create my own divisions (Full Power Ammo division, Doesn't Fit in the IDPA Box division, Stoke Your Mags to their Physical Capacity division, etc.), and encourage people to shoot them. It would be easy to use NFC to create a Real Carry Gun division. BUG equipment rules are pretty close to what I'd want, but BUG still requires five-round strings, no timed reloads, etc., and you could use NFC to allow BUG-legal guns, but within a normal match. When we have done BUG side stages, it's often the case that people do not have legal holsters, five or six mags, etc., but if the division were offered consistently, rather than just as side stages, or one-off opportunities, people might get the necessary gear. In a lot of ways, the BUG course of fire rules - five shot strings, no reloads - are probably more "realistic" than the usual competition rules. We had a BUG-only match, with fourteen, 5-round stages, and it was good fun.
  25. It's interesting that Big Dogs might be more inclined to shoot IDPA if there are no prizes at all, than if there are random prizes? If Top Dogs must shoot IDPA to please their sponsors, then it wouldn't matter if there were prizes, or not. Obviously, if the shooter decides where they are going to win, then they'll want to shoot the matches where prizes go to the winners.
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