Duane Thomas Posted July 15, 2003 Author Share Posted July 15, 2003 Heh. They probably think your first name is "SiG." BTW I've always wondered why you spell it SiG, what the significance is to not capitalizing the middle letter. I'm sure you know SIG are initials (stands for Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft aka Swiss Gun Company) and normally all capitalized, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Above 130 is a small part of the population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 I may be wrong, but I don't think 130 will get you into Mensa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Now, was this test based on the 200 scale or the 150 scale......? The SiGARMS name logo--as imprinted on some of their literature--kinda looks like that, so I just took SiG merely to see if anyone would notice. Yep, am also hip to the translation. "Insightful Linguist" might be some default category coded for leftover folks that defy categorizing (all the better!) and who happen to show unusual interest in firearms. My one encounter with a Mensa individual was one of extreme (!!) arrogance....! And now for something completely different: Personally modified tag line copped from a well-produced TV advert: "... Ah, a 1911. The perfect accessory for your right (or left) hand." Sorry.... was this a thread drift...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 There is a bit of arrogance among Mensa members, took the test to get in about 10 yrs ago, didn't pass and was summarily snubbed by those who were already members...Oh well... I have been told more than once that I did not fit into any specific catagory...uhhh, is that bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted July 15, 2003 Author Share Posted July 15, 2003 I was actually invited to join Mensa, years ago. Went to one meeting. Checked out the members, thought, "My God, these are the sorts of people who sat in the back of the classroom throughout their entire high school careers, eating the library paste out of books." Brrrrrrrr. I feel the same way about New Agers. I find some facets of New Age beliefs interesting, but when I went to a meeting, everyone there was this fat, helpless, dingbatty rabbit person. Where are the hard, competent people within the New Age Movement? Where are the New Age gun nuts? Duane Thomas: Visionary Philospher New Age Mensan gun nut at your service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted July 15, 2003 Author Share Posted July 15, 2003 I have been told more than once that I did not fit into any specific catagory...uhhh, is that bad... NO!! Dare to be different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 I remember, long ago, taking my first (and last) IQ test. After I saw how the test was "graded," I remember thinking - This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Now, by way of what I've learned and observed regarding (predisposed) Temperament, saying someone has a high IQ doesn't mean anything more to me than saying that person has black hair. I went to the personality test page, but stopped when requested to fill in name and email address.... Is it worth it, even if just for fun? be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted July 15, 2003 Author Share Posted July 15, 2003 Sure. Just for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 I just took the test, then rechecked it off the web. I'm not so sure they aren't using a random number generator to come up with the IQ's. Since these same Yahoos are giving Astrology tests, I'm not sure I'd put much faith in this. 140 if you wondered... (which is I believe is the greatest score this test offers, which is also wrong...but I digress...) I really don't think IQ tests represent intelligence as much as indicate one's ignorance. Without having seen Pythagorean's theorem 8 gazillion times, I probably wouldn't recognize a gimme hypotenuse question right off the bat. Does that mean I'm stupid if I haven't had geometry yet? If I had a crappy teacher and didn't retain any of it, am I dumb? I could go on, but I'll spare everyone and won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Oh, woo is me, SiG Lady chooses not to post her score and Benos didn't take the test, I guess we all have to fall into line and become "gofors" for the only two Visionaries, Duane and Liota. Going to be tough sleddin'... Man, Brian, I know exactly what you mean about it being worth it, when I viewed Duane's trivia for July...it isn't worth it, even for fun. Your comments tracked almost exactly with SiG Lady's comments about her experiences...however, you would be a very interesting subject to test at this juncture in your life, as would she. Kind of makes me wish I was a shrink instead of my son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 (ErikW)"...Does that mean I'm stupid if I haven't had geometry yet?..." Exactly. I thought back to what happened to me as a child AND as a female child then female adult trying to break into tinker toys, erector sets, mechanical drawing, math, and then finish carpentry... my god, I was rebuffed and openly discouraged at every turn and every attempt. The "math" and "mechanical" thing was greatly loved (and frankly one of my strong suits) but never happened in great doses due to social factors and few realistic opportunities and career opportunities. This prevented some intellectual/mental growth as well, I'm convinced and left me out in the cold concerning certain advanced academic skills. (I was also discouraged from using my left hand in school, too! God, was there NOTHING I could do/want without pissing someone off...??!!) On "not fitting into any category." Exactly!! I'm convinced it's why most of us are here right now. One of my employment counselors/agents here in Eugene once said I was hard-to-place in jobs because 1.) I truly WAS overqualified in most cases, and 2.) a bit too 'autonomous'. Huh...? Like, there's something wrong with being 'autonomous'...??!! I told her frankly that it was being 'autonomous' that allowed me to SURVIVE the past 30 years, thank-you, and how ELSE was I supposed to be...??!! Duane Thomas: Visionary Philospher New Age Mensan gun nut at your service. That completely sez it all. Totally. Sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAL Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Another 131 score, But hey, I did better than I thought I would on it. Good thing it did not go into spelling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide45 Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Observer and Facts Curator We also compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Facts Curator.This means you are highly intelligent and have picked up an impressive and unique collection of facts and figures over the years. You've got a remarkable vocabulary and exceptional math skills — which puts you in the same class as brainiacs like Bill Gates. And that's just some of what we know about you from your test results. LOL!!! Agrees with my Sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Same type as Duane, 4 points lower though. I agree with his take on Mensa. Dingbatty rabbit persons. I work with a guy whose IQ is 160 or so. NO ONE wants to interact with him. I'm basically his translator: Earth to FantasyLand and back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liota Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 TL, Brian, and SiGLady, I don't put much stock in these things, but there is some validity in a test for aptitude. People who come to my course used to take a test which gave us immediate feedback about their potential success in the course. It isn't absolute, but it does allow us to hedge our bets by asking generally benign questions which will force the potential student attempt to use his/her brain in the way required for success. The end result was a lower number of failures and eliminations from the course. The flip side is, of course, those who know how to take the test. They tend to skew the results. If we get them, the bonus is ours. If they outsmart the test and fail it, we lose. Brian, the test is fun and somewhat challenging at times. Liota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmark Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Visual Mathematician. (Which I think means I have to take off my socks to count past 10. ) My score was 133. I sent a link to this test to my Brother-in-Law, and he couldn't figure out how to start it. So I sent him a link to the J20 test, where he did above average!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I took it this afternoon and scored seven points lower than I did a couple of months ago (the same exact questions!), and that original emode score was below my real test results. And the two descriptive things were both different! As far as Mensa goes . . . I was qualified to join that "super" mensa thing (I forget what it's called, but it's for the top XX% of the mensa members) based on my test scores. I was in the SF Bay Area when I found out, but all of the local Mensa chapters I knew about were actually S&M sex clubs -- no foolin'! I'm not into that, and I'm not that fond of being around people who are always trying to impress others (regardless of the skill or attribute in question), so I never joined. Besides . . . I'd feel like a poseur. At my undergrad school (Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech), I was the only person in 1987 who did not score 800 on the math part of the GRE. I scored a lowly 750 and I was a whipping boy for all of the other nerds for a while. Of course, nowadays when everyone takes prep courses, a 750 is even more embarrassing! But back then it was a reasonably respectable percentile among normal people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimel Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I love IQ tests...never scored the same on any of them I have ever taken. Mostly it has to do with my level of patience at that particular moment. If I feel like working out the math questions then I score higher. If I can't be bothered I score lower. I have known several Mensa types over the years (living/working near universities all of one's life will do that). I wouldn't give you a bucket of warm spit for the lot of them with one or two exceptions. The majority were not talented in anything that mattered in day-to-day living and their only talent seemed to be telling people they were a member of Mensa. Oh....135...visionary philosopher. Whatever THAT means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 BE, just go for the personality test for fun (I gave them a fake name and email address). I did it (and posted the results) just to show how stupid and maybe misleading their conclusions on your personality could be. To me that test looks like horoscope: I don't believe/care at all about them, but I always have fun at listening them and comparing to my real life. The most hilarious horoscope I ever heard about my zodiac sign was: "today you'll have a very relaxing and thoughtful day, spent all by yourself in a quiet and lonely place". I was listening to this crap in a hotel room at 6.30 a.m. while dressing up for the last day of Italian Nationals last october: talk about a "relaxing day in a quiet and lonely place" ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I have known several Mensa types over the years .... I wouldn't give you a bucket of warm spit for the lot of them.... I really think there's a phenomena of being so smart that one just goes stupid. Look at the moronic sh*t Microsoft ships out on a regular basis. They really have the best and the brightest running the company and *somebody* thought that a dancing paper clip was a good idea. I've probably told this story before, but when I was working on my degree, I'd occassionally overhear the profs talking about a symposium one of them just got back from. The question for the (un?)lucky attendee was, "So, normal people, or geeks on parade...?" Some of the top physics guys were so whacked out that they literally had escorts to keep them from wandering away or being run over by traffic. They would literally get lost going to the men's room. Some of the top theoretical physicists are so freaky that the normal physics guys talk (seriously) about taking freaky hallucinogenic drugs to try and mimic the mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liota Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I really think there's a phenomena of being so smart that one just goes stupid. Look at the moronic sh*t Microsoft ships out on a regular basis. They really have the best and the brightest running the company and *somebody* thought that a dancing paper clip was a good idea.I've probably told this story before, but when I was working on my degree, I'd occassionally overhear the profs talking about a symposium one of them just got back from. The question for the (un?)lucky attendee was, "So, normal people, or geeks on parade...?" Some of the top physics guys were so whacked out that they literally had escorts to keep them from wandering away or being run over by traffic. They would literally get lost going to the men's room. Some of the top theoretical physicists are so freaky that the normal physics guys talk (seriously) about taking freaky hallucinogenic drugs to try and mimic the mindset. That is so funny. I have worked with people like that. The Windows thing is a sure bet. The military lets some folks use UNIX for programming and so forth. I love UNIX. If I could find all the programs I use supported for UNIX, I would use it at home. It is a professional's language for the most part. If you tell it you want to delete something, it doesn't ask you 15 times if you are sure. It just does it. Herein lies the rub. One of the guys who thinks the dancing paperclip is such a good idea erased my hard drive at work with a couple of wildcards and a stroke of the enter key. Okay, okay, I'm still a little (LOT) bitter about it. Get this, he got to go do a detail that let him go hom early. Liota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Some of the top physics guys were so whacked out that they literally had escorts to keep them from wandering away or being run over by traffic. They would literally get lost going to the men's room. EricW, maybe you'll believe this is true, maybe not, but it is reported that Albert Einstein once was walking at lunchtime in his neighbourhood, lost in his speculations, when all of a sudden he entered the barber's shop and asked "where side did I came from, left or right?", and when the barber answered he came from left side, Einstein replied "Left...so I'm coming from home, then I must have already had lunch!", when actually he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 EricW Was it you that programmed the tiny guy with an Open Blaster to appear and shoot the paperclip when it appeared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 FWIW, and IMHO, all the "I.Q." in the world isn't going to help you if you don't have the Divine Detachment of a genuine Sense of Humour. The truly intelligent can wash their own clothes (and clean their own guns ), care about the fellow beings around them and find humour in the midst of All Else. Just MY two kopeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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