shred Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Found this while wandering unsupervised around the internet: http://www.straightdope.com/teemings/extra...al/scylla5.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 As someone who has shot the longbow for many years I appreciate, understand and agree with the analogy. I think it excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I never saw my Father ...miss... with a shot-gun, I saw him hit rabits on the run with a 22. I remember one of our last times out to hunt together. I asked " how can you hit Every Time"? ..his reply was " Why would I want to Miss?" 20 years later that made since to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 "Why would I want to Miss?" Wow...... I think I'm going to remember that one. Zen, indeed.........! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carinab Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Cool stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 WE are such strange creatures in the ways we limit ourselves neat post Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Why not take the sight/dot off and find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralChang Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) Zen for A-holes? Here I thought this was another of _ _ _'s expert commentary. Edited May 16, 2007 by GeneralChang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadetree Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXSouthpaw Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I saw the thread title and thought of something else entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Very nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Shooting a recurve bow instinctively is very much a freeing experience just as shooting a compound bow with pins feels mechanical. Very limiting. The compound feels more secure, or safer in it's predictability. The recurve requires no predictability once you quit thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 hmmm Honestly, I believe Scylla needs extended time away from the monitor... just a gut feeling is all. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 This short article about Lucky McDaniels kind of relates. I remember reading about him in the ol' days. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Depending on loacation you could give TSA a try,, they have a "No sights of anykind allowed division" "If thou sights offend thee cast them aside" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markcic Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 It makes sense. Think about throwing a ball. You don't think "I need to move my arm like this and release it here with a certain trajectory". You just think "the ball needs to go here" and throw it. There is no real conscious thought involved in the act of throwing the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 What I got out of Shred's link and Brian's helps back it up: don't let your conscious mind muck up what you already know how to do in your subconscious. I drove this point home to myself this past weekend shooting eggs at our sales meeting. There were two lines of eggs on golf tees at 40 odd yards set up to shoot with rimfire rifles. I decided to give them a try with a pistol. The first full 18 round magazine only yielded one broken egg. My conscious brain was barking instructions about sight alignment and trigger control (which is something my subconscious knows how to accomplish) A second magazine showed a bit of improvement with four eggs broken. I was more calm and made an effort to shut off my self instruction. Somewhat pleased with the better score, I walked away from the firing line. About ten minutes later, I walked back to the line and there were five lonely 9mm rounds left in the tray. Not wanting them to go to waste I loaded a single round in the magazine, practiced a textbook reload in front of my nose and squeezed off the single shot at the one in the line of eggs. Hit, eggshell appears over the front sight rather than the splash of dirt. Repeat procedure two more times for two positive hits. On the last two rounds, I lost my calm state of mind and had two misses. In the end, I proved to myself that I can reliably shoot minute of egg if I can keep my conscious brain from getting too involved in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Imagine a forum the size/scope of this one dedicated to the conscious/subconscious mind. You could read for 10 years and still have your head up your a$$...or you could read one post and be golden. Knowing is here...trusting is where you want to be. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Imagine a forum the size/scope of this one dedicated to the conscious/subconscious mind.You could read for 10 years and still have your head up your a$$...or you could read one post and be golden. Knowing is here...trusting is where you want to be. SA Consistently trusting is most difficult. I suppose that's true in more than shooting...that's what my "gut" tells me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I think a true 'Zen' forum would be one that didn't exist.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide45 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Doesn't exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 ...nor need to exist in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotm4 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 The author is right. I shot archery in high school for 2 yrs and was damn accurate without sights, stabilizers, releases etc. A few years later when getting a compound for hunting with aluminum arrows, sights, bow mounted quiver and a release I had to relearn how to shoot and it was totally different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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