HI5-O Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Maybe they can schedule it in November...the same time as Area II...that way I can shoot in my own area match barry you know I'm only kidding so don't get your underwear in a knot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I wonder ...... ..... if this thread is falling in deaf ears, or in internet speak, blind eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTerry Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I wonder ...... ..... if this thread is falling in deaf ears, or in internet speak, blind eyes +1 Why is it not taking place on the USPSA forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 Sadly I think more USPSA members read this than the USPSA Forums. however, if one of the mods would like to either link or entirely clone this thread to the USPSA forums, I would agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBudd Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I wonder ...... ..... if this thread is falling in deaf ears, or in internet speak, blind eyes +1 Why is it not taking place on the USPSA forum? This isn't the USPSA forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 Generally more USPSA based discussionis found here and IPSC is apparently discussed more on the GV. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Probably because for some reason the link, if there is one on the USPSA site, to the USPSA Forum is impossible to find. I don't know why USPSA makes it so hard to find their forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimel Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 At least four of the ADs (Bruce, Gary, Manny, Rob) read this forum and we know that Mike V lurks as well. So it is being read/heard. The problem is the lack of institutional will to make it so. They fail to realize that it is only that first year when essentially you have to double schedule to get out 1 year extra that is hard. They complain that there are only so many ranges capable of handling an Area, let alone a Nationals. Well, if some of the larger clubs knew 18 months to 2 years in advance that they were going to have the Nationals they could/would be motivated to build out the range some more. A whole year to design and debug stages would lead to better stages. The logic for doing it is simple. The logic for not doing it escapes me. Hopefully the next pres will take thing to heart and get the scheduling thing taken care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltermitty Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Probably because for some reason the link, if there is one on the USPSA site, to the USPSA Forum is impossible to find. I don't know why USPSA makes it so hard to find their forum. You'll need the password to get there: http://www.uspsa.org/forums/ Things are pretty quiet over there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 (edited) Probably because for some reason the link, if there is one on the USPSA site, to the USPSA Forum is impossible to find. I don't know why USPSA makes it so hard to find their forum. Opening page, left side row of buttons. Says "USPSA Forums". Edited November 1, 2006 by open17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sargenv Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Single Stack Nationals April 26-28 2007ICORE June 15-17 2007 Canadian Nationals August 1-5 2007 Steel Challenge August 16-17 2007 Add to that out west.... ICORE Southwest Regional April 21st 2007 (Richmond, CA) Golden Bullet California Sectional July 27-29 (Richmond, CA (still pending approval)) I wanted to make the CAN Nats so I made sure the GBC was a week earlier.. I'll be taking off a lot of time in those two weeks.. and dang, two weeks later is the Steel challenge.. August will be one busy month! Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Probably because for some reason the link, if there is one on the USPSA site, to the USPSA Forum is impossible to find. I don't know why USPSA makes it so hard to find their forum. Opening page, left side row of buttons. Says "USPSA Forums". I see, but I always go in through the Members site and I can't seem to find it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I seem to remember in the first few years at Barry that the Nationals were scheduled several years in advance. I think this was before/just after Limited so there was only 1 Nationals to schedule. What with multiple Divisions/Championships it gets quite a bit more complicated. Then there's the issue of having things scheduled so far in advance there would be little immediate incentive to build new National Level ranges. This years Open/Prod Nats at Tulsa are an example of being able to be a bit flexible. BTW how long has MV been Pres? Going on, close to, 10 years isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Probably because for some reason the link, if there is one on the USPSA site, to the USPSA Forum is impossible to find. I don't know why USPSA makes it so hard to find their forum. Opening page, left side row of buttons. Says "USPSA Forums". I see, but I always go in through the Members site and I can't seem to find it there. Wow. I see what you mean. I did find it from the members page. Additional content> NROI website>external links> Range Officers Forum will get you there. What a PITA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 USPSA Forums Step #1 Go To www.uspsa.org Step #2 Read the lefthand directory until you see "Forums" Step #3 Click on Forums Step #4 Read Forums, unless you are not a USPSA Member, then you will first have to join and then have to getyour copy of Front Sight to get the password. Jim Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Wow. I see what you mean. I did find it from the members page. Additional content>NROI website>external links> Range Officers Forum will get you there. What a PITA! So go in through the main uspsa.org page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDH Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Well, if some of the larger clubs knew 18 months to 2 years in advance that they were going to have the Nationals they could/would be motivated to build out the range some more. A whole year to design and debug stages would lead to better stages. I could be wrong on this, but I believe the clubs come forward and request to be considered for a Nationals. Assuming that is the case, how many clubs have requested a Nationals next year (or a better question would be... how many have requested 2008 or 2009)... Not trying to pick a fight here as I think everyone agrees that more notice is much better than less notice. Personally, I'm trying to carefully balance 2007 match requests/match committments/work committments/and wife requests (okay, committments ). I'd love to know the Nationals schedules a couple of years in advance, but I do think that the clubs need to request them. If clubs are currently requesting Nationals in advance and this purely on USPSA, then that is another issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver8M3 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 i think we can safely assume that tom fee would like to host the nationals for the next...well, for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I think that once USPSA has determined the dates and times for 2007 Nationals that they should start immediately on the 2008 dates, then next year they will work on 2009, so everyone has a clear idea of where and when. As for 2007, as long as Open is in Tulsa I could care less about when and what happens to the other divisions. If Tulsa hosts the Nationals for the next 10 years I would be happy. The range is amazing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 Tulsa is an OK place (No I intend no pun) It has restaurants. There is an airport centrally located, it is only a two day drive from almost anywhere. It has one of, if not the best range facilities in the country. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 It has one of, if not the best range facilities in the country. +1 and this time next year it will be one of the best ranges in the world. I wanna US World Shoot, I wanna a US World Shoot, I wanna US World Shoot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old john Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 The answer is simple! Make the Nationals for "the members" and Tulsa is the only chioce. Old John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgtsvi Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I agree with keeping the match in Tulsa. I heard rumblings about the Open Nats being held in Montana in 2007 and all I can say that I wont be making the journey that far. Although it is a beautiful place and I will visit there one day, the logistics are too difficult for me to shoot a match there. Tulsa is geographically close the the center of the U.S. and easier for more people to attend. The range is incredible and I cant see why the Nats would ever have to be held in any other place. The USSA range to pistol shooting is what the National gun club in San Antonio is to clay shooters. If you have a facility of this type that easily accomodates a large volume of shooters, then why look anywhere else. I hear the Limited nats will be in Tulsa next year so I will be putting the open gun up for awhile next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 We still need dates! Members of the BOD and President Voight. We need you to set the dates and the venues so we can set the rest of our calendars. PLEASE! Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I generally hear what the dates are just about the same time you do. Not saying that's optimal. That's just how it is. Have - several times over the past several years - offered a motion for a non-binding resolution which indicates the Board's desire to have next year's Nationals dates announced no later than the end of the current year's Nationals season, but... for myriad reasons, the resolution has never passed. Which is especially annoying because it wouldn't actually *do* anything except put it on the record that that is what the Board *wants*, and we can't even seem to agree on that.... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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