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I am getting a few hundred 147G round nosed coated bullets from Summit City to try. I am wondering what powder load works good for Minor PF ?  Obviously there are more factors to consider, but I am looking for a good starting point. Thanks

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look in the reloading section.. Look at a burn rate chart, pretty much anything from E-3 to unique will make decent 9mm minor ammo. SHooters worlds powders havent taken off in price yet, I stocked up on Accurate 2 / and clean shot.. which is as good as any and better than most.

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This is in the appropriate forum (General Reloading, 9mm/.38). I have a ton of HP-38 so that is what I will be using until my supply is exhausted.

I was just hoping that someone would post an approximate amount of grains to use with 147g coated round nose for Minor PF.

I appreciate the information though !

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51 minutes ago, Skytrooper said:

This is in the appropriate forum (General Reloading, 9mm/.38). I have a ton of HP-38 so that is what I will be using until my supply is exhausted.

I was just hoping that someone would post an approximate amount of grains to use with 147g coated round nose for Minor PF.

I appreciate the information though !

scroll down said forum,, the information is posted many times,, but as you are set on powder and bullet you just need a manual

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OP: I'm not sure if the search is working for you, but it hasn't worked for me in a while. I searched this forum externally for you. Here are some of the results:

 

*Remember, 231/HP-38 are the exact same powder in different containers.

 

 

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8 hours ago, ysrracer said:

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On 4/11/2024 at 2:01 PM, Skytrooper said:

I am getting a few hundred 147G round nosed coated bullets from Summit City to try. I am wondering what powder load works good for Minor PF ?  Obviously there are more factors to consider, but I am looking for a good starting point. Thanks

 

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4 hours ago, 4n2t0 said:

 

 

Blah blah blah, I load coated, plated, and jacketed bullets all the same.

 

Granted I've only load a couple of hundred thousand rounds, but so far so good.

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19 hours ago, ysrracer said:

Blah blah blah, I load coated, plated, and jacketed bullets all the same.

 

Granted I've only load a couple of hundred thousand rounds, but so far so good.

 

What exactly is blah, blah, blah supposed to mean? Who cares what you do, the OP asked for a coated load at minor and you provided useless FMJ data.

 

P.S. Many of us have tons of loading experience, but only those of us that are insecure need to tell everyone all the time.

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I like that exact combination and will return to it when my lighter bullets have been used up.

The last time I chronographed it I got:

147 gr Brazos coated 9mm + 3.2 gr HP38 = 882 fps f 129

in Springfield 1911A1 for IDPA ESP.

 

Same load with Gallant 147 flat point about the same.

Gallant load in STI Eagle gave higher velocity, as much as 920 fps. 

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20 hours ago, ysrracer said:

Blah blah blah, I load coated, plated, and jacketed bullets all the same.

 

Granted I've only load a couple of hundred thousand rounds, but so far so good.

 

56 minutes ago, 4n2t0 said:

 

What exactly is blah, blah, blah supposed to mean? Who cares what you do, the OP asked for a coated load at minor and you provided useless FMJ data.

 

P.S. Many of us have tons of loading experience, but only those of us that are insecure need to tell everyone all the time.

At the bell, they come out of their corners like crazed Spartans!

ysrracer lands a glancing blow to open the round!

The blow doesn't seem to faze 4n210, however and he responds with a solid... I mean devastating body blow!

ysrracer is backing up, looking to regroup!

And that's the bell, ending round 1 of this slugfest.

More after this...

 

Hey, O.P. I use that same load of 231 (3.2 gr) under my 147s, and I have some coated 155gr which I shoot the same charge. Nice load. 

Remember (if it hasn't come up yet) that you may have to change your O.A.L. depending on the bullet you are shooting (profile, ogive, etc) and it will feel different in your gun than lighter projectiles in regard to muzzle rise and recoil. 

 

And now, we're back for an exciting round 2!!

 

Sorry, guys, just messing with ya...

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21 minutes ago, Dr. Phil said:

Sorry, guys, just messing with ya...

 

lmao, no worries here, I found it to be thoroughly entertaining.

 

No round 2 or any other rounds for me. I try my best not to get sucked in to these things, but some people make it very difficult. Maybe I just need to stop spending so much time on these types of forums and keep more to myself. That's probably the best path forward.

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ah the pot is finally bubbling.

 

I run lead bullets...

If any powder is better for 9mm than HP-38 or w231,

I can state I have not seen it. 

 

forgive me for wanting to find fault with a powder

that was designed for another service... so I'll skip that.

 

what got me to stick with hp38/w231 is a level of performance

more consistent than my shooting.

 

To expand this a bit, I tried n320 (I hope I remembered that correctly)

it seemed much the same and as it is harder to find and higher cost,

I have not gone seeking it. (buuut I will buy it.)

That comment is good for the other one I was told has merit.

in that alternate powders got me much the same result.

in terms of accuracy anyway...

 

hp-38/w231 is a very good starting point

and as you try other powders you can be confident

in your results when comparing them.

 

if you start chasing 9 major power factors

or driving compensators then other powders may give you better results

 

miranda

 

 

 

 

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I use a lot of 231 in 9mm, although mostly with 125gr jacketed bullets.  For 147's I'd just pick a lead bullet starting load that looks about right, see where it chronos and adjust from there.

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12 hours ago, 4n2t0 said:

What exactly is blah, blah, blah supposed to mean?

 

It means that you can safely use any load data for a bullet of a given weight. Jacketed, plated, coated, pick a load, chrono it, have fun.

 

Loading 9mm mInor isn't rocket surgery.

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hi farmer,  yeah he is like that.

I had decided he is a surgeon.

I did not know he stitched up rockets.

 

He'll likely jump in here with pictures of socks and primers

to distract us from asking about spacesuit mechanic work.

I hear it is easy, and the wrenches are priced outta this world.

 

 

miranda

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In my revolver n320 was a LOT dirtier than 231.  I could see instantly my brass was cleaner when I switched (only because I ran out of 320 and it’s currently unobtanium)

 

Cheaper AND cleaner?  Win win.

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