notanoperator993 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Great article in the latest Combat Handguns issue on the double stack Tisas Night Stalker. Grip looks nice, 3.5 trigger break, no mim parts, solid lock up and 1" accuracy at 25yds. Under $1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanoperator993 Posted December 24, 2023 Author Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) Photo Edited December 24, 2023 by notanoperator993 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Looks like a rebranded Girsan 2311. They're decent base guns, but will need work to be really shootable. Moving the decimal place one digit over on the trigger pull would be nice. All the Girsans I've handed have >3.5 kg SA triggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Interesting. Looking forward to seeing more about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanoperator993 Posted December 27, 2023 Author Share Posted December 27, 2023 Also seems that SDS is importing a double-stack 2011 (black w/o threaded barrel) model as well... Shops with it listed, out of stock obviously: https://www.google.com/search?q=tisas+12500002&oq=tisas&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggAEEUYOzIGCAAQRRg7MgYIARBFGDsyGAgCEC4YQxiDARjHARixAxjRAxiABBiKBTISCAMQLhhDGK8BGMcBGIAEGIoFMgYIBBBFGDwyBggFEEUYQTIGCAYQRRg8MgYIBxBFGDzSAQgxNzk3ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#ip=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconrover Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I just bought a Tisas 10mm Yukon commander (bobtail cut). Ordered up some Wilson mags, will be interesting to see if it actually performs. Fully prepared to have some teething issues. I was going to build my own from Fusion parts, but decided to sorta try before you buy to see if it's what I'm truly after. I may build an aluminum lower just to see how it holds up. Will be a fun project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanoperator993 Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 Confirmation by Tisas is it'll be released at Shot show this year. Sub 1000 msrp. Found sku's at some retailers (out of stock obviously) that are showing sub $800 street. Carbon steel frame and steel slide. No mim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 They need to knock it off with the Girsan 2311 format uber-long serial number or FFLs will get grumpy. This one already is from booking them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abigger04 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 1/2/2024 at 3:03 PM, notanoperator993 said: Confirmation by Tisas is it'll be released at Shot show this year. Sub 1000 msrp. Found sku's at some retailers (out of stock obviously) that are showing sub $800 street. Carbon steel frame and steel slide. No mim. I hope they have a booth at shot show. I'll be there to check it out if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimaConnoisseur Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I'm pretty interested in checking it out. Id like to try out the 2011 platform, and the Prodigy seems like it would be a good start as well, but if the Tisas is almost half the price and only slightly crappier might be the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Based on Girsan 2311 experience (I suspect the same factory makes both based on the pictures), magwells will be easier to fit than the Prodigy, but the trigger will be much worse. It'll also be a bushing barrel instead of bull. What optic plate they cut the slide for could be important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k80clay Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Somewhat unrelated but I bought a Tisas Duty 9mm 1911 crazy cheap on GB and the thing runs 100% right out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I am looking forward to seeing the hands on reports. I just picked up 2 of the Military Armament Corp, SDS company shotguns. Copies of the Benelli M2's. They are amazing for the money. Really looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 1/8/2024 at 9:48 AM, shred said: Based on Girsan 2311 experience (I suspect the same factory makes both based on the pictures), magwells will be easier to fit than the Prodigy, but the trigger will be much worse. It'll also be a bushing barrel instead of bull. What optic plate they cut the slide for could be important. EGW makes a magwell for the Prodigy that needs no fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I'd buy one tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Stacatto magwells fit the Girsan. I'd expect them to fit the Tisas as well since they look to be made by the same Turkish OEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamasabound Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/10/2024 at 8:26 PM, shred said: Stacatto magwells fit the Girsan. I'd expect them to fit the Tisas as well since they look to be made by the same Turkish OEM. I have a Girsan 2311, and like the one you tested the trigger was unusable. I fit an MPA aluminum grip and dropped in EGW parts, and it’s now a functional basic 2011-like gun. I do not believe the Tisas is made by the same company — the frame for the Tisas 2011-a-like is steel, and the small parts are different. The cast Girsan parts seemed particularly brittle, and the frame rapidly wore from the replacement steel safeties I fit. I expect the Girsan will not hold up. I have marginally higher expectations for the Tisas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I've had my hands on 3 Girsans and they all had that same super-heavy trigger. But, dropping a new sear spring in one of them made a night and day difference. I'm basing my guess based on the same long-ass serial number format on the Girsans and Tisas pictures and they're both bushing barrels and from Turkey, but its possible they're different OEMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanoperator993 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 Girsan is imported by EAA and Tisas are SDS imports. Fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Looking forward to actually checking one out. Crazy inexpensive price point. Might be fun, if it holds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 On 12/24/2023 at 6:30 PM, shred said: Looks like a rebranded Girsan 2311. Girsan and Tisas are two very different manufacturers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanoperator993 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 39 minutes ago, mreed911 said: Girsan and Tisas are two very different manufacturers. Get the feeling shred doesn't like Turkish guns huh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 28 minutes ago, notanoperator993 said: Get the feeling shred doesn't like Turkish guns huh... He probably isn't up to speed on Turkish manufacturing capabilities. Lots is changing there quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Turkey is making some very nice options. Picked up 2 of the MIC benelli copies. Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Nah, Turkish guns can be fine. Just the trigger and serial number on all 3 Girsans I've messed with have sucked. Changing the sear spring fixes the trigger. The serial number is just annoying to FFLs. The rest of the gun is decent for the price. But, based on what I know about 2011 manufacturers and manufacturing here and abroad, I'd be somewhat surprised if there were two completely independent manufacturers thereof in the area. The factories may have different names and they may say they make everything in house, but that is rarely the case. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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