Chillywig Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Registered a week or so ago in practiscore for local match in limited optics and shot my first LO match today. The classifier was 22-06 blue don't care. Shot a pretty good run - hit factor was 10.17. But there's no LO division in my classification record. So do classifiers not count while its a provisional division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chillywig said: Registered a week or so ago in practiscore for local match in limited optics and shot my first LO match today. The classifier was 22-06 blue don't care. Shot a pretty good run - hit factor was 10.17. But there's no LO division in my classification record. So do classifiers not count while its a provisional division? It’s not provisional until May 1st. Should not have been available in match yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 When the LO classification goes live what will they base the class scores/percentages on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Chillywig said: When the LO classification goes live what will they base the class scores/percentages on? Open from my understanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Chillywig said: When the LO classification goes live what will they base the class scores/percentages on? I’ve heard it will be based on Open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) Not sure why. It would make more sense to use Limited. Edited March 27, 2023 by SufferInSilence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenshooterMclass4lyfe Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 In the board meeting mins it said hhf will be based off open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwontanamo Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 it'll be provisional for a year correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenshooterMclass4lyfe Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, Kwontanamo said: it'll be provisional for a year correct? Depends on the board. After one year of provisional status they will review numbers and other data and make a decision on making it permanent, doing away with it completely or giving it another year or provisional status and then review it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guns_and_labs Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 How did you get practiscore to recognize Limited Optics? It's not enabled for us yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 When I created the match registration for our next match, practiscore had LO as a available division, which I had to delete because it’s not official till may 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Some clubs are running LO already. The one I'm shooting this weekend is one of them. I don't really see the issue, your gear is still legal to use. Your classifier doesn't count. What does making me sign up as Open minor one more time really accomplish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 17 hours ago, SufferInSilence said: Not sure why. It would make more sense to use Limited. Why ? its all minor isnt it ? Would make more sense to use carry optics because its exactly the same thing other than some peoples feelings. DOesnt seem like making sense has been high on priority list for USPSA for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Considering they made changes to Revo, screwed up the HHF and made people GM's, then added PCC with to low HHF and made lots of GM's. Then CO had to low HHF creating more GM's. Starting with to high of a HHF and not just manufacturing more GM's seems like a better move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 17 hours ago, SufferInSilence said: Not sure why. It would make more sense to use Limited. It would also make sense to have this be more like limited but here we are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) Having them initially set off of Open does actually make the most sense. Since to factor one you're going to have to shoot all alphas anyway more than likely, minor ends up not being a factor. And since many classifiers have multiple draws and reloads, there is a chance that the magwell and race holster would give an advantage on things like classifiers over carry-ops. And we've already seen across matches that a DOT on a carry-op's gun, tends to beat major in a limited gun, so you end up at open for initial classification. Or at least that's one way to look at it Edited March 27, 2023 by RJH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Joe4d said: Why ? its all minor isnt it ? Would make more sense to use carry optics because its exactly the same thing other than some peoples feelings. DOesnt seem like making sense has been high on priority list for USPSA for quite some time. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Racinready300ex said: Considering they made changes to Revo, screwed up the HHF and made people GM's, then added PCC with to low HHF and made lots of GM's. Then CO had to low HHF creating more GM's. Starting with to high of a HHF and not just manufacturing more GM's seems like a better move. But I wanna explain to girls on tinder dates what a GM is… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) For my first LO match I just put the magwell back on my X5. And got a DAA Flex holster - which made all my other race holsters feel sad... I can see where having a 2011 with tuned ammo and spring we could get a gun that would shoot close to a open gun. Just gotta hit them A's fast. Edited March 28, 2023 by Chillywig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, SufferInSilence said: But I wanna explain to girls on tinder dates what a GM is… If that's your MO, I'd say your target audience is more likely to be on grindr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 I went back and looked at Practiscore. Looks like our club bumped everyone in LO to open. (hope I didn't get anyone in trouble ) Now showing 25 open shooters. 19 scored minor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamasabound Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Well we are on HHF for things, 22-06 is criminally low, as are most speed shoots where the HHF is set at a nationals. The fastest time in any handgun division was 2.43 at open nationals. Since it’s been live, I’ve seen low 2s across pistol divisions, including production. 22-06 is going to race to the top of broken classifier charts with its buddy 9-09. With that in mind, we should set LO HHF off Revo to drive participation in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestock Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 9:56 PM, SufferInSilence said: Not sure why. It would make more sense to use Limited. Limited doesn't have optics. You can put lipstick on a pig, but you are shooting an open gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Sestock said: Limited doesn't have optics. You can put lipstick on a pig, but you are shooting an open gun The first “open guns” were single stacks with comps and no optics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 16 hours ago, Sestock said: Limited doesn't have optics. You can put lipstick on a pig, but you are shooting an open gun pretty much, unless the stage has 32 rounds, or has someone come up with a 31 round 170mm mag that works ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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