tk4 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Looking for recommendations for my next powder. I am running out of a lot of CSB1 powder I purchased years ago. I have been very happy with it for 9mm. My normal bullet is a 135 coated Bear Creek. I'm looking for soft, clean, accurate, and low smoke with coated bullets. I have tried Titegroup, WST, WSF, and Accurate #2. I prefer the CSB1 to all of them for various reasons. Titegroup is louder and snappier. WSF and AA2 are dirtier. WSF is a bit too temp sensitive for my liking. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radny97 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 RSComp is softer shooting than Sport Pistol, and slightly dirtier. It’s also not able to reach the velocities that Sport Pistol can without running into pressure issues. They both flow very easily. Personally I prefer Sport Pistol for 9mm and RSComp for 45 and 38 special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I am almost out of CSB-1 myself. I do like using Shooters World Clean Shot and Sport Pistol but Titegroup is much easier to find and is usually cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Love sports pistol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbagger123 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 i have used both. the positive with RC comp is that its usually available, is light in color and fill the 9mm case well with normal loads. this helps prevent double charges . sport pistol postive is that the velocity was consistant and flowed through a measure like water . negative to me was the dark color and the fill. its not as bad as TG, but its possible to double charge a 9mm case . Also, its hard to find . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floater Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Like Sport Pistol a lot, second would be Clean Shot, third place would be Titegroup. Sport Pistol is a fair amount cleaner and runs cooler than Tightgroup, Clean Shot is just that in my findings, runs clean but take more to make the same speed. Sport Pistol and Clean Shot both seem to have a tiny bit softer feel at the same speed, no science to bake it up, just the way it feels to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubfromGA Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 On 2/28/2023 at 9:45 PM, floater said: Like Sport Pistol a lot, second would be Clean Shot, third place would be Titegroup. Sport Pistol is a fair amount cleaner and runs cooler than Tightgroup, Clean Shot is just that in my findings, runs clean but take more to make the same speed. Sport Pistol and Clean Shot both seem to have a tiny bit softer feel at the same speed, no science to bake it up, just the way it feels to me. Good to hear the the results with Clean Shot. I have much more of that on hand than I do Sport Pistol....and it is generally available at my local range, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk4 Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 Sifting through the suggestions. Are any of these not recommended with coated bullets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floater Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Yes, I load Gallant and Blues, and ever know and then Accura plated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbcaster45 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) I'm still working on a load for my Staccato XL but I'll share. Ridiculously soft shooting and fun to shoot... Hopefully I can chronograph it this weekend. Groups at 10 yards and 20 yards, just don't like shooting off the bench. Gun: Staccato XL Recoil Spring: 8 lbs. Bullet: Blue Bullet 147 grain RN Powder: Ramshot Competition 2.7 grains Primer: Federal 100 Case: Federal OAL: 1.130 Edited March 7, 2023 by pbcaster45 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbagger123 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, pbcaster45 said: I'm still working on a load for my Staccato XL but I'll share. Ridiculously soft shooting and fun to shoot... Hopefully I can chronograph it this weekend. Groups at 10 yards and 20 yards, just don't like shooting off the bench. Gun: Staccato XL Recoil Spring: 8 lbs. Bullet: Blue Bullet 147 grain RN Powder: Ramshot Competition 2.7 grains Primer: Federal 100 Case: Federal OAL: 1.130 2.7 grains? that load is barely hitting 775 fps i would bet. RS comp published loads by the factory are very very conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbcaster45 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) I know, but I'm cautious! I started at 2.5 grains with a 7 lb. recoil spring and busted out laughing! They must have lawyers writing their loading guide - or maybe that guy who writes for the Daily News. How did he describe shooting an AR-15 again? Oh, yeah! "The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick." Edited March 7, 2023 by pbcaster45 grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben53 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I'm running Sport Pistol under Blue 147 TC's, and am extremely pleased. All the accuracy I need (and more!), easy recoil, cost efficient, clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 9 hours ago, pbcaster45 said: Ramshot Competition 2.7 grains Let us know if you make PF for USPSA or IDPA. The lowest I can run in a CZ Shadow 2 and make minor with range brass is 2.9 grains 150 grain FP 1.13” 3.1 Sport pistol gives a reliable 132+ PF 150 grain bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbcaster45 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Actually, I think the Blue Bullet 147 grain RN weighs closer to 150. If the weather permits, I will check the velocity this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbagger123 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 the original RS comp must have been faster than the later batches. on the powder speed chart they list it faster than red dot and i can tell you for sure in my testing its not even close. it closer to sport pistol and n320. n320 must have changed through out the years as it seems to have slowed down also in my testing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbcaster45 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) I found out I can seat my bullets out a little longer than I thought! I tried this load out and it was still very soft shooting and just as accurate as my jacketed load with Titegroup. Weather was too bad to do any chronograph work. Bullet: Blue Bullets 147 grain RN Powder: Ramshot Competition 3.0 grains. Primer: Federal 100 Case: Federal (2-Dot) OAL: 1.140 My jacketed practice load (primers looked a little flat, will switch to Federal brass). Bullet: Precision Delta 147 grain JHP V2 Powder: Hodgdon Titegroup 3.2 grains Primer: Federal 100 Case: Winchester OAL: 1.145 A couple of twenty round groups at 10 yards with the Precision Delta load. Edited March 16, 2023 by pbcaster45 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 I love RS Comp. 3.2gn with a 135gn coated bullet is my go to load. I recently switched to SW Cleanshot and while it's a good load it's not as good a comp IMO. but it's not an apples to apples comparison. Load is 3.2gn with a 147gn coated bullet. Next I'm going to try N320. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHand Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 I recently just switched to Sport Pistol after 10+ lbs of TItegroup. I'll never go back unless that's the only thing I can find. I put 3-4k through my S2 with TG and then switched to SP. Last 1k was noticeably better recoil impulse and substantially cleaner. I'm a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbcaster45 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Checked the velocity for my test load today (ten feet from the muzzle and 68 degrees). Gun: Staccato XL 5.4-inch bbl. Bullet: Blue Bullet 147 gr. RN (.3555) Powder: Ramshot Competition 3.0 grs. Primer: Federal 100 Small Pistol Case: Federal OAL: 1.140 Avg. Vel.: 854 fps ES: 13 SD: 4 PF: 125 Recoil Spring: Wilson Combat 8 lb. Will probably settle on 3.1 grains for my final load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbcaster45 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) Oops! Forgot the Precision Delta load! Bullet: Precision Delta 147 gr. JHP V2 (.355) Powder: Hodgdon Titegroup 3.3 grs. Primer: Federal 100 Case: Federal OAL: 1.145 Avg. Vel.: 869 fps ES: 24 SD: 8 PF: 127 Recoil Spring: Wilson Combat 8 lb. Edited March 26, 2023 by pbcaster45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Maybe I'm weird but sport pistol feels better to me with a lighter bullet vs titegroup for 147's. Both at 130PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darqusoull13 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Sport Pistol is about as good as you can get for 9 mm. It's super clean, consistent, cooler for long practices in summer and relatively fills the case more than powders like Titegroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Another vote for Sport Pistol. Been running SP with several brands (ACME, Bayou, Blue, BBI, Eggleston) of 9mm and 40S&W coated. Good fill, speeds as expected, minimal burned wire smell, decent accuracy....shoots great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShooter Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 6:21 PM, tk4 said: Sifting through the suggestions. Are any of these not recommended with coated bullets? Sport Pistol is particularly recommended FOR use with coated bullets. It is cooler burning than TiteGroup and easier on the coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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