Silver_Surfer Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) Any type of muzzle device aid in precision shooting? Not necessarily for speed but accuracy/group size. Target shooting, Hunting ect. Edited June 9, 2021 by Silver_Surfer needed to correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFlowers Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Typically a brake reduces recoil which contributes in a couple of ways. Less movement means you can keep the scope on target and see your impacts. Faster followup shots. Less shoulder fatigue. A suppressor may or may not provide the same, along with courtesy of being quiet. Course what type of precision shooting you are doing also matters since some formats do not allow muzzle devices. There is also a whole discussion that brakes help by reducing air turbulence at the muzzle, but the article pro and con on that topic are way above my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Freeman Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 The centerfire world is just starting to realize that tuners are a thing. Browning tried with the BOSS many years ago, but it was aimed at hunters and not competitive shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertwil18 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Area 419 Hellfire or their new Hellfire Match is my go to for precision competition when i am not using a suppressor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Surfer Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 Thanks guys, you gave me a lot more to think about. Hummm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccampo1129 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Reduced recoil helps with shot calling/calling impacts. Thats the main responsibility of a brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Muzzle devices can provide several different benefits. In the case of the boss system it was a method to tune the vibration (harmonics) of a barrel. On larger diameter stiff barrels it provides less effect. For me personally I look for reduced recoil/muzzle movement. My 3gun rifle has one for the purpose of muzzle movement, and my Hunting rifle (338) for recoil. I also have one on my LR rig, but its as noted above, the reduced movement helps me see hits down range. In testing I have done, I have not found any difference in accuracy. My experience has lead me to believe a rifle will be accurate.......or it won't. If your rifle isn't up to your accuracy expectations, a muzzle device is not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris13 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I agree with mpeltier 100%. After shooting a larger rifle all day, I'll take any benefit I can get, including comfort. We all have our fatigue limit while shooting, the point at which not matter how hard we try, out fatigue overcomes our skills. My muzzle brakes help me extend that time. I've tested quite a few popular muzzle brakes, not all for sure, and there is a difference in recoil with a muzzle brake. Some changes are dramatic. My only problem is that some of the muzzle brakes are way too expensive for what they are. The Venom Defense muzzle brakes work incredibly well (I have them on all my guns) and they are priced correctly. Please note that I'm not frugal at all, so if there was a muzzle brake that REALLY worked incredibly well and it was $200, I would have it on all my rifles. Full disclosure, I am not sponsored by Venom nor have I rec'd any promotional benefit from them, I just like their product. I've tested it to prove it works incredibly well for me, as well as it's price point is great, especially if you have a few rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeto Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) imo i think it depends on what you mean by "precision shooting" and "target". theres more tactical shooting like PRS (where the majority of muzzle devices are brakes iirc) and then there's bullseye target shooting like benchrest. brakes would be better for PRS style because it reduces muzzle rise, felt recoil and helps in shot follow up and tuners more for bench rest. as for hunting, you probably dont need either one tbh. neither PRS nor hunting require the level of accuracy you would want a tuner for but you can i suppose. ofc. i run a brake on everything i can because i just think it looks cool. and looking cool is obviously the most important part. bonus points if the brake is flush with the barrel and the same finish. Edited July 18, 2021 by Teeto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Agree with everything posted. I do know that on my 18" AR-10 in 308, when shooting it from the bench without the brake, it is a 2" rifle at 100. Add the brake, of coarse the blast is worse, but the same ammo goes to 3/4" at 100. All in the harmonics in that barrel for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Tex Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Some brakes can disturb the way gas exits that causes inaccuracies. I perticulary don't know which ones do that, but it happens. I put a 40 dollar brake on a 338lm and it's a great gn for never loosing sight. Recoil is extremely low and accuracy is very good even with IMI 250smk. Ultradyne has worked very well in all caliber guns I've installed then on. 1 being/making it more accurate, I don't know. I test with and without just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE1010 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 6/9/2021 at 10:46 PM, Robertwil18 said: Area 419 Hellfire or their new Hellfire Match is my go to for precision competition when i am not using a suppressor. Another vote here for the Area 419 Hellfire Match if not using a suppressor. Another good option is the Ultradyne Apollo Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokam101 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Breaks will help a ton. Look at the ACE break, 419 hell fire if you like pissing people off or the apa fat Ba$tard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Tex Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 19 hours ago, Sokam101 said: Breaks will help a ton. Look at the ACE break, 419 hell fire if you like pissing people off or the apa fat Ba$tard Unless it's a linear brake (if you can call it that) all will be your neighbor's irritation. Radials are a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darqusoull13 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Run suppressed. You'll have a much better day and you won't end up asking your family, "What?" constantly when you get home. Any sport that allows suppressors should be shot suppressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhotoRecon Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 (edited) Added the WOA Tubb 4 Star muzzle brake to my threaded, long and heavy AR15 barrel. Noticeable improvement in retaining sight picture and obvious reduced felt recoil. Didn't notice any increase in noise or blast while behind the gun. The threaded section of the barrel is 0.90" along with the nut allows you to tune the brake. One negative is the very narrow slats on the following nut. This requires an adjustable wrench with very narrow jaws. The Tubb 5 Star version doesn't have this problem. In the process of load development but my existing loads for my non braked heavy barrel work great. Edited September 9 by PhotoRecon Added info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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