iride Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Seriously considering picking up an X5 Legion and I want to put a dot on it. I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out exactly what is and isn't compatible. As I understand it so far, I can have a Romeo 1 or the Delta Point Pro without adapter plate or most anything else I want if I get an adapter plate to go with it. Correct so far? Second part is as far as the Romeo 1 options. Do I have to wait for the Romeo 1 Pro to finally ship to run without a plate or does the current Romeo 1 also work without a plate? I'd prefer to mount without the plate if I can get away with it but I'd also rather no just throw a bunch of money at optics when I don't really need to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Don Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 DPP or Romeo1PRO is your options. Others with plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iride Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 So basically DPP or a plate since the Romeo1Pro doesn't look like it's going to be available at the very least anytime this year if not longer. I was afraid of that...2.5 moa is too small and I'm not really sure how I feel about the large triangle reticle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 We're in the same boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 The Romeo 1 if you arent averse to drilling out the mounting holes in the body so the correct M4 screws can fit through and into the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy1629 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 22 hours ago, iride said: 2.5 moa is too small and I'm not really sure how I feel about the large triangle reticle. Have you tried it? I’m coming from an 8 moa cmore I have on my open gun and PCC to this 2.5 DPP on my X5 Legion and it is working pretty we’ll especially with it turned all the way up. I didn’t think I would like it but it’s not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Don Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I thought the 2.5 would be too small as well. Actually it was not that bad. The dot size did not let me down as much as the optic itself did. Maybe 400 rounds and the battery contact has already slid from recoil. Trying the 5MOA SRO next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggulp Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 L&M Precision can convert the X5 to RMR foot print for $45. Not sure if that applies to the newer ones, but worth checking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PewPewJohnson87 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 13 hours ago, Big Don said: I thought the 2.5 would be too small as well. Actually it was not that bad. The dot size did not let me down as much as the optic itself did. Maybe 400 rounds and the battery contact has already slid from recoil. Trying the 5MOA SRO next. I'd suggest looking through a 2.5moa first, like most Trijicon's the dot balloons on the glass and is actually bigger then 2.5 IMO. I bought a 2.5 instead of waiting on the 5moa. FWIW I'm also currently using a 6moa Romeo1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iride Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 I used a 3 moa for 6 months. Indoors it's fine, outdoors in bright sunlight it was hard to tell the dot apart from a spec of dirt on the lens especially when shooting fast. You can manage it on a rifle but it's ridiculous on a pistol. That's why the 6 moa. I don't have that problem with the 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PewPewJohnson87 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) If you have a chance look through a 2.5moa SRO on the brightest setting, you might be surprised, I know I was... If not, stick with the original plan. Edited August 27, 2019 by PewPewJohnson87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehelix Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Has anyone seen the Romeo 3MAX's out in the wild yet? Optics Planet says 1-2 month, but they always say that! I wonder what the mounting pattern is for that optic? Will it require an adapter plate, or does it have the same screw pattern as the R1P? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClangClang Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I've got 10k-15k rounds through three different DPPs, all with the 2.5 MOA dot. I can say that there has only been one single time I've ever wished for a larger dot, which was shooting a match in the desert (ABQ, NM) in blazing sunshine on a range comprised of reddish/tan rock and sand where the dot just kind of blended into the background. That's the only day I can ever recall having any difficulty whatsoever tracking the dot. Otherwise, no issues, even on the brightest days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehelix Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, ClangClang said: I've got 10k-15k rounds through three different DPPs, all with the 2.5 MOA dot. I can say that there has only been one single time I've ever wished for a larger dot, which was shooting a match in the desert (ABQ, NM) in blazing sunshine on a range comprised of reddish/tan rock and sand where the dot just kind of blended into the background. That's the only day I can ever recall having any difficulty whatsoever tracking the dot. Otherwise, no issues, even on the brightest days. But some of us are OLD and can't see a thing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdnok Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Doublehelix said: Has anyone seen the Romeo 3MAX's out in the wild yet? Optics Planet says 1-2 month, but they always say that! I wonder what the mounting pattern is for that optic? Will it require an adapter plate, or does it have the same screw pattern as the R1P? Have a Romeo 3 Max but it has a RTS2 mounting pattern and to top it off it is a little longer on the front so it may or not fit a normal RTS2 mount pattern. The mounting screws are 4mm instead of the normal RTS2 8/32 mount screws as well. Unfortunately the Legion only fits DPP and R1 pro pattern optics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehelix Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 20 hours ago, xdnok said: Have a Romeo 3 Max but it has a RTS2 mounting pattern and to top it off it is a little longer on the front so it may or not fit a normal RTS2 mount pattern. The mounting screws are 4mm instead of the normal RTS2 8/32 mount screws as well. Unfortunately the Legion only fits DPP and R1 pro pattern optics. So what do you think? Do you like it? Is the glass bigger than the Romeo 1, or are you not familiar with the Romeo 1. Any comparison would be great! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul49 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 On 8/27/2019 at 8:30 AM, Doublehelix said: But some of us are OLD and can't see a thing!!! How old? I’m 69 and a half and have enjoyed my DPP 2.5 MOA in competitions for over a year, probably 4-5K rounds. Mounted on a G35, first as a Dueck Defense dovetail mount then the last nine months with a Carver Competition frame mount. I’m in Southern California where it’s nearly always sunny. Made the transition to the DPP because I just couldn’t see the front sight without shooting glasses and got tired of the shooting glasses compromising binocular vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey1056 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 If you need another option than the Romeo 1 Pro, you can use a standard Romeo 1 and slightly enlarge the screw holes to accept the larger screws. It’s not hard at all. Just increase the holes 1/64” until proper fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slide4949 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I have a RTS2 with 8moa I sent to c-more for a dot change to 3moa with the new version they said they had. Anxious to get it back and check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Trey1056 said: If you need another option than the Romeo 1 Pro, you can use a standard Romeo 1 and slightly enlarge the screw holes to accept the larger screws. It’s not hard at all. Just increase the holes 1/64” until proper fit. I have done enlarging the hole on the Romeo 1. Use a 4mm drill bit and a press so it doesn’t wiggle around. There are no electronics at the vicinity of the holes. I know because I opened it up first before drilling the holes out. Then get a black permanent marker and dab the holes with the tip so you can get rid of the shine and evidence that you have drilled it in case you have to send it in to Sig later for warranty repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Sig replaced one that I dropped with the enlarged holes . Wasn't an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadiangunnut Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 2:22 AM, Trey1056 said: If you need another option than the Romeo 1 Pro, you can use a standard Romeo 1 and slightly enlarge the screw holes to accept the larger screws. It’s not hard at all. Just increase the holes 1/64” until proper fit. On 11/15/2019 at 6:20 AM, George16 said: I have done enlarging the hole on the Romeo 1. Use a 4mm drill bit and a press so it doesn’t wiggle around. There are no electronics at the vicinity of the holes. I know because I opened it up first before drilling the holes out. Then get a black permanent marker and dab the holes with the tip so you can get rid of the shine and evidence that you have drilled it in case you have to send it in to Sig later for warranty repair. What size screws did you use after enlarging the holes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 4mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Canadiangunnut said: What size screws did you use after enlarging the holes ? M4 x .7 x 12mm screws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadiangunnut Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 16 hours ago, jcc7x7 said: 4mm 13 hours ago, George16 said: M4 x .7 x 12mm screws Thank you jcc7x7 & George16 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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