Hi-Power Jack Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Thanks, Steve. I'll give you one of the "weak fingers" (You pick which one). Yeah, you're right. When I get a chance (Been Very Busy lately), I will take that little puppy apart and see if its diaper is on right. I hate to spend any $$$ and get nothing for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blockader Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) I've been using my Schmeisser a good bit for my home practice stages/drills and it has yet to have an issue. I needed a 60 rnd mag at a match last month and decided to actually vet this thing before I might need it again. I think I feel alright taking it to local matches at this point. Edited November 26, 2019 by Blockader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Its 100% reliable. I've used it in several.matches and I never had a ftf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Watched a guy in our squad shoot one this weekend. Seemed to work fine with no problems, may pick one up. gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 For 40/45 $ I dont think theres a better mag. The magpul ones are 130$ by comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) On 11/27/2019 at 6:44 AM, AverageJoeShooting said: For 40/45 $ I dont think theres a better mag. The magpul ones are 130$ by comparison D60s can easily be found for under $100 on various sales. The last ones I bought were $90-something shipped. Personally, I'd rather spend $90 on a mag that works than $40 on one that doesnt. YMMV. Edited December 27, 2019 by gose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, gose said: D60s can easily be found for under $100 on various sales. The last ones I bought were $90-something shipped. Personally, I'd rather spend $90 on a mag that works than $40 on one that doesnt. YMMV. Except this mag DOES work. I ran 400 rounds through it and never once had a single failure to feed. I have run it through several competitions since then in rain mudd and heat and I have had no failure to feeds through any of that. I am close to about 3k rounds through this mag and I have never once had a failure to feed from the mag. I stand by my statement that for 40$ you cant find a better mag. If you want to spend twice that just for a name then be my guest. But this is a cheaper option that works just as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueorison Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, AverageJoeShooting said: Except this mag DOES work. I ran 400 rounds through it and never once had a single failure to feed. I have run it through several competitions since then in rain mudd and heat and I have had no failure to feeds through any of that. I am close to about 3k rounds through this mag and I have never once had a failure to feed from the mag. I stand by my statement that for 40$ you cant find a better mag. If you want to spend twice that just for a name then be my guest. But this is a cheaper option that works just as well Does it work w steelcased ammo ie have a larger window of operation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, blueorison said: Does it work w steelcased ammo ie have a larger window of operation? I did some preliminary testing with 1 box of steel cased and I didnt have any issues. I think more testing is required for steel cased. But from the 50 rounds I shot I had no issues. Also how common is steel cased anyway? I was under the impression that no one shot steel cased for 223 anymore cuz it's all garbage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, blueorison said: Does it work w steelcased ammo ie have a larger window of operation? Also anyone who is looking at this mag obviously has competition in mind. With that being said why would you use cheap steel cased ammo in competition? It's like you are cheeping out on the ammo which affects accuracy but then not cheaping out on the mag. If your going to go all the way why not use great ammo too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueorison Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, AverageJoeShooting said: Also anyone who is looking at this mag obviously has competition in mind. With that being said why would you use cheap steel cased ammo in competition? It's like you are cheeping out on the ammo which affects accuracy but then not cheaping out on the mag. If your going to go all the way why not use great ammo too? Great questions. Steel ammo isnt crap when you compare it to mass produced brass. Youll find you can get about 2 to 3 moa with m193 mass produced ammo and 3 to 4 with steel cased. Use case: Hoser matches, matches under 100yds. Any match w paper targets present. The point isnt steel vs brass. It is operational window/reliability. Steel introduces increased friction, this helps us test gear for brass and steel cased ammo. I mainly use brass, so you're preaching to the choir. Edited December 27, 2019 by blueorison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problemdog Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Pretty much forget EVERYTHING you ever knew about loading AR mags. I had the same issue. 17 go in then NOTHING ELSE. If you use both of your thumbs to roll each round into place, with a thumb on both ends of the round, you should get 55 in without issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Hope I have good luck, I just ordered the Gen 2 from Brownells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 3:31 PM, Problemdog said: If you use both of your thumbs to roll each round into place, with a thumb on both ends of the round, you should get 55 in without issue. GREAT INFO !!!! I'm going to give that a try. Can't get more than 17 or so in there, now. Thanks for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 WELL- even with a loader its a B---H none of my reloads fit- to long- but they all fit in my 30 round mags- So I tried loading with different makes of factory ammo- all brass- and all loaded up fine- yes the factory is just a little shorter than my reloads. Saturday Ill hit the range and hopefully the mag will run flawless. Hi-Power Jack I did load some with the two thumbs- not worth my effort- used the LULA and actually fit 65 rounds in- had to see- the extra are out for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Thanks, Rolex. My mag is at the gunsmith right now, and he's saying he cannot get more than 17 rounds in it either. I'll try using my LULA when I get it back - sounds like a reasonable approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Thanks, Rolex. My mag is at the gunsmith right now, and he's saying he cannot get more than 17 rounds in it either. I'll try using my LULA when I get it back - sounds like a reasonable approach. What if anything is he using as a loader? Ill tell you I cant load this beast with my thumbs! AND PS with the factory ammo This mag functioned FLAWLESS- BUT my reloads are to long could not get more than 15 into the mag as the point of the 55gr heads stuck into the front of the mag- Now if the mag could be made just a tad longer in the front it would most likely shoot the reloads- from the factory making them, SO I reset the length to what most of the factory stuff is and BANG- loaded up 60 rounds and it ran flawless- NO I don"t shoot steel case or anything else- just the brass!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 I don't know what steps my smith has taken in working with this problem. I gave it to him, along with my TruBor, about two months ago - and then the Virus got in the way. Probably be a while before I get it (or my TruBor) back, but it doesn't matter since my range has been shuttered for at least a month. When I was playing with it, I tried reloads and four brands of ammo, and they ALL stuck around 17-18 rounds - wouldn't go any further. But, I've since purchased a LULA - so I'll try that when I get the mag back. Plus, someone here suggested rolling the rounds in - I'll try that also. Meantime, I've purchased two P-Mags 60 rounders - won't get a chance to try them out until the Virus goes away (I'm worried, because I'm 75 years old - kind of afraid the Virus might outlast me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgkrs Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Brownells just featured it on their youtube channel: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Did they mention how to get more than 18 rounds in the mag ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverickz Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I was excided to purchase the Schmeisser S60 M4/AR GEN II however like Blockader and Hi-Owner Jack I was unsuccessful in loading the full magazine and could only load (20) 5.56 NATO rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCH Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I bought one awhile back. I've used it at a couple matches, and so it has worked great. It loads just fine for me, but I don't have little girl hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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