rtr Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I am looking for the best competition (USPSA, Steel Challenge, 3Gun) trigger for my X5. Looking for the following info on any and all trigger options. 1. Pull weight 2. Trigger travel 3. If trigger has less overtravel than stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Gray guns trigger kits Lower weight to about 3lbs Less pre and over travel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Hello: I would say the Gray Guns competition trigger. Stock mine was 5lbs 8ounces and very shootable at that. I installed the trigger and it is less than 3lbs now. I think it is actually a little lighter now. It has almost no overtravel when you install the stop bushing. I think I am going to take it out since I like a little overtravel. I am using the curved trigger in mine. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwithnoname Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 The BURKE trigger is the best I’ve felt. I have both grey guns installed and BURKE triggers. The BURKE is better in all aspects. The BURKE has half the travel as the stock / Ggi and a better break. I felt someone’s home Ggi that was around 2 lbs. the break was mushy and the travel was the same. As long as the trigger is under 4 lbs or less, I’d rather have shorter travel and a good break. Going off feel, the BURKE is the same weight as my installed GGI trigger. https://www.thesigarmorer.com/product/320-cola/#p320-model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 That's a send your gun off job though isnt it? I'd choose the Burke trigger too if possible. I'd love a shorter reset. Even with the gray guns kit the reset is long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thormx538 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I've only tried stock and Gray Guns (several of each) and the Gray Guns was totally worth the $130, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streckjc Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 GrayGuns Competition Trigger Kit. Pull is down to 4lbs 6oz average and breaks clean at 90* and no over travel. Great kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo929 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I just installed GG also. Around 3lb 6oz and shorter reset. Gun has under 1k rds and nothing has been polished. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Can someone post the length of total travel and the length of just the reset for the Gray guns trigger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennisw1mac Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Can someone post the length of total travel and the length of just the reset for the Gray guns trigger?There is a great yt video from Robert Burke that breaks down all measurement differences. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 Thanks for the video that helped. My main objection to my X5 trigger is the length of pull and the length of reset. The Burke is much better in these categories but too expensive. It appears the Apex improves the travel quite significantly. Are there aftermarket trigger return and sear springs available anywhere to help lighten the trigger pull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streckjc Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, rtr said: Thanks for the video that helped. My main objection to my X5 trigger is the length of pull and the length of reset. The Burke is much better in these categories but too expensive. It appears the Apex improves the travel quite significantly. Are there aftermarket trigger return and sear springs available anywhere to help lighten the trigger pull? My X5 pull is down to 4lbs 6oz with this kit and nothing else. No over-travel and quick reset. https://grayguns.com/product/grayguns-p320-competition-trigger-kit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, streckjc said: My X5 pull is down to 4lbs 6oz with this kit and nothing else. No over-travel and quick reset. https://grayguns.com/product/grayguns-p320-competition-trigger-kit/ The length of pull on that kit is 0.328”, barely less than stock. Apex LOP is 0.210”. My pull is 3.5lb with polishing, wanting to make it lighter with aftermarket springs but not aware of anyone that sells just springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streckjc Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 minute ago, rtr said: The length of pull on that kit is 0.328”, barely less than stock. Apex LOP is 0.210”. My pull is 3.5lb with polishing, wanting to make it lighter with aftermarket springs but not aware of anyone that sells just springs. Try reaching out to GrayGuns to see if they'll sell their springs separately. Worse that can happen is they say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, streckjc said: Try reaching out to GrayGuns to see if they'll sell their springs separately. Worse that can happen is they say no. That have already said no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
be032 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 My GG kit is sub-3 lbs with only dry firing. My only complaint is the break, which is a light thud, but only a small step down from the OE P320, which was a moderate thud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 My X five trigger was 4.5 lb stock, about 3.5lb with polishing and just under 2lb by adding the Gray Guns kit. Pre travel, over travel and reset feel reduced with the Gray guns kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaep1911 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 18 hours ago, rtr said: My X five trigger was 4.5 lb stock, about 3.5lb with polishing and just under 2lb by adding the Gray Guns kit. Pre travel, over travel and reset feel reduced with the Gray guns kit. Mine is just under 3 lbs (2.75-ish) with some minor polish and GG kit. Where did you polish if you do not mind me asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, jaep1911 said: Mine is just under 3 lbs (2.75-ish) with some minor polish and GG kit. Where did you polish if you do not mind me asking? Where striker engages sear, on the original sear where it engages striker (irrelevant with GG kit), top of thing that pushes firing pin block up, surface on trigger bar that engages sear, rear area of trigger bar that rubs against FCU (front area around hole that trigger fits into I should do but haven't). Shot the GG kit today and like it better than original trigger, I think the shorter reset (and total travel) really help, still would like the reset to be shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 My reset didn't seem to change much, would love to see how to reduce it. I tried the kit with 2 top ends. One was really good and the other not so much due to the striker safety. I'm sure there is some fine tuning of the striker safety that could be done to help to even them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman7242 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Gray Guns Comp trigger and 10k rounds later, I'm at 1 lb and 7oz at the bottom of the trigger and roughly 2 flat at the middle. I don't ride the reset so I don't have much of an opinion on the reset. Doubles drill at 5 yds, 0.13 splits fairly easy on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm2953 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 No one seems to run the Apex parts. Is the GG kit that much better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
be032 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo929 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 No one seems to run the Apex parts. Is the GG kit that much better?I had the apex trigger in a 40. Didn’t agree with my finger so I sold it and got the factory flat for that gun and GG for X5. GG is hands down better in my opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincwarrior Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 4/28/2019 at 8:16 PM, Manwithnoname said: The BURKE trigger is the best I’ve felt. I have both grey guns installed and BURKE triggers. The BURKE is better in all aspects. The BURKE has half the travel as the stock / Ggi and a better break. I felt someone’s home Ggi that was around 2 lbs. the break was mushy and the travel was the same. As long as the trigger is under 4 lbs or less, I’d rather have shorter travel and a good break. Going off feel, the BURKE is the same weight as my installed GGI trigger. https://www.thesigarmorer.com/product/320-cola/#p320-model My Burke trigger is almost exactly 3 lbs. The trigger travel actually breaks before it hits vertical. It really is the proverbial breaking glass trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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