IHMSA15151 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) So I pulled the gas system apart to clean and then replace the gas piston to try some lighter loads. When I looked at the exploded parts diagram to make sure I had things correct, I noticed the drawing shows a sealing ring and a gas block o-ring. My gun didn't have either of these parts. So is there a design change or did mine come missing parts? It actually functioned pretty well for the first run. I was using Win. Super-X high base 6's and only had a few issues. After about 75 rds it was running great with the 5 & 9 rd. mags. Edited May 4, 2019 by IHMSA15151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky1 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 5 hours ago, IHMSA15151 said: So I pulled the gas system apart to clean and then replace the gas piston to try some lighter loads. When I looked at the exploded parts diagram to make sure I had things correct, I noticed the drawing shows a sealing ring and a gas block o-ring. My gun didn't have either of these parts. So is there a design change or did mine come missing parts? It actually functioned pretty well for the first run. I was using Win. Super-X high base 6's and only had a few issues. After about 75 rds it was running great with the 5 & 9 rd. mags. The owners manual diagram is wrong, the pistons are different from the one pictured in the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky1 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I have a VR80 with in excess of 1,000 rounds through it. Magazines for the VR60 and the VR80 are identical. The buffer system is carbine length (commercial) but can be converted to mil-spec. The buffer is proprietary, and is not interchangeable with other buffers. The VR80 buffer has a portion of the buffer that extends into the rear housing so it will remain in contact with the bolt carrier. Installing a aftermarket buffer will leave a gap between the bolt carrier and cause the carrier to hammer the buffer until it fails. I contacted Advanced Tactical and suggested more buffer options and they liked the idea and stated they would forward the request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reballz Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I have a VR80 with in excess of 1,000 rounds through it. Magazines for the VR60 and the VR80 are identical. The buffer system is carbine length (commercial) but can be converted to mil-spec. The buffer is proprietary, and is not interchangeable with other buffers. The VR80 buffer has a portion of the buffer that extends into the rear housing so it will remain in contact with the bolt carrier. Installing a aftermarket buffer will leave a gap between the bolt carrier and cause the carrier to hammer the buffer until it fails. I contacted Advanced Tactical and suggested more buffer options and they liked the idea and stated they would forward the request.Have you looked at the Taccom Vr80 Recoil system?https://taccom3g.com/product/vr80-recoil-buffer/Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky1 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, reballz said: Have you looked at the Taccom Vr80 Recoil system?https://taccom3g.com/product/vr80-recoil-buffer/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky1 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Lucky1 said: Looks great! I'll have one ordered in just a couple of minutes, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reballz Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Looks great![emoji106]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWG1WGA Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Anyone else with the taccom buffer using the carbine spring find it incredibly hard to lock the bolt open by hand? I can tell it’s the secondary little spring in the buffer doing this. Does this lighten up the more you use it or is this just what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwood Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 1 hour ago, WWG1WGA said: Anyone else with the taccom buffer using the carbine spring find it incredibly hard to lock the bolt open by hand? I can tell it’s the secondary little spring in the buffer doing this. Does this lighten up the more you use it or is this just what it is? Did u cut the 6 coils off like the instructions said ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWG1WGA Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Yeah. Made sure the original end mated to the buffer properly. When you pull back you can feel the carbine spring compress and that feels normal. To lock it back though you really have to lean on the charging handle and you can feel the difference in spring rates so I know I’m now compressing the small spring. Taccom instructions recommend switching to a milspec tube as well though they say the factory tube will also work. I know milspec vs commercial tubes are different diameters but never needed to question the length. Original also has the different end cap that is threaded for the factory stock to mount...wondering if that end cap is thicker to allow the stock to thread into it. I guess I’ll go pull a tube off another rifle to compare. That will get me wondering about a rifle length tube and spring though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWG1WGA Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Ok so the factory tube is about three turns shorter than a milspec carbine tube. Maybe this is why taccom recommends changing it out. That’s about 3/16” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WWG1WGA Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Swapped the tubes...it’s a little better. Swapped the buffer and spring back to factory...better yet. Now realized that the bolt release takes a small hammer to actually release the bolt on lock back with either spring. Screw it! Taking parts to the range tomorrow and just dumping ammo down the thing. Will see what works, what doesn’t, and if I’m shooting it at the match next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepperMD2001 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 9:20 PM, Underwood said: Shout out to Benny Hill and Timothy Ubl My VR80 runs great.. Triangle Shooting Sports for the trigger work,porting the barrel and modifying the gas system. Taccom, LLC for the VR80 recoil system. Anybody on the fence about this product..it flat out works.. runs 1145 fps shells smooth and fast !!!! Tell me more about this trigger work you speak of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwood Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 hours ago, PepperMD2001 said: Tell me more about this trigger work you speak of. Benny Hill changed a spring and polished the trigger parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHMSA15151 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Underwood said: Benny Hill changed a spring and polished the trigger parts I could use that, can you provide contact info? Just got my Taccom buffer in the mail today and the new tube and spring should arrive Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseImage Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Got to use my Tooth and Nail 28rd mag today ... Very happy to have this in the collection. Will post the full match video tomorrow once everyone finished shooting Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, IntenseImage said: Got to use my Tooth and Nail 28rd mag today ... Very happy to have this in the collection. Will post the full match video tomorrow once everyone finished shooting Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk I still stand by the idea that you are literally the only person to receive anything from tooth. They simply stopped responding to my emails or voicemails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseImage Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I still stand by the idea that you are literally the only person to receive anything from tooth. They simply stopped responding to my emails or voicemails. And I've been chatting w them all evening lolSent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwood Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 hours ago, IHMSA15151 said: I could use that, can you provide contact info? Just got my Taccom buffer in the mail today and the new tube and spring should arrive Monday. https://triangleshootingsports.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseImage Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 New 3Gun Nation Unlimitedx4 Division with the VR80! Note, the gun doesnt like my "spinner ammo" ... Back to 1200s for that!Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I watched the video a couple of times, but I couldn’t see the spinner when you were shooting. With proper shot placement, and timing, it SHOULD only take 3 shots, even with 1145fps, but, I’ve seen shooters empty their guns, shooting turkey loads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseImage Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I watched the video a couple of times, but I couldn’t see the spinner when you were shooting. With proper shot placement, and timing, it SHOULD only take 3 shots, even with 1145fps, but, I’ve seen shooters empty their guns, shooting turkey loadsYea 3 is about right. I had some marginal hits so took 2 extra to make sure it drove over on both. The first one I shot with just 1200s then tried the hot stuff on the other to see what would happen.Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoeShooting Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Anyone thought about taking a rattle can to their vr80? Could come up with some cool paint schemes. I was thinking of doing like a blue and white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWG1WGA Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Alright alright! Finally got to shoot this thing. I would have been extremely pissed if I hadn’t already seen and read to run a bunch of rounds through the thing right off the bat. First box of shells, fte every time. Kept loading more and of different brands/velocities. The taccom buffer wouldn’t work right off the bat so had to put the stock one back in. After about 100-150 rounds it was running like a top. Occasional failure to feed but I think the mags need to break in too. Got rained out a bit early but I threw the taccom buffer back in inside the truck and loaded up a full mag. Jumped out in the rain and did a mag dump no problem and the bolt finally locked back with that buffer! Extremely happy now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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