glockman75 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Got the twins in March. I’ve had a great year shooting these blasters. I want everyone to know about these guns. They rock! I wish the folks at Akai the best and hope to promote a great product supported by good people.I finished 16th in Open at Optics Nationals this year. Been shooting open for 2 years. I shot in their contingency program and won a bunch of stuff and was united with other shooters across the country. It was fun being part of something.Also met all of their team shooters and learned a lot about tuning the guns, powder selection, bullet choices, springs etc. Thanks guys! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, glockman75 said: Got the twins in March. I’ve had a great year shooting these blasters. I want everyone to know about these guns. They rock! I wish the folks at Akai the best and hope to promote a great product supported by good people. I finished 16th in Open at Optics Nationals this year. Been shooting open for 2 years. I shot in their contingency program and won a bunch of stuff and was united with other shooters across the country. It was fun being part of something. Also met all of their team shooters and learned a lot about tuning the guns, powder selection, bullet choices, springs etc. Thanks guys! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Absolutely beautiful!!! Drooling!!! Could you give specific about the build, pros and cons.. I'm looking to get into open this coming year and akai is one of my contenders as my top blaster. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz427 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Man, those are beautful. I could hardly afford one, let alone two. I bet those two guns cost as much as the car I just bought my wife and will be paying off over the next 5 years lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRPOperator Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) I started shooting Open in May of this year, made B class and won some Contingency money through the Akai program. I ordered a Limited gun instead of a 2nd Open. I am hoping to win enough to help fund the backup Open gun next season. I did a full size open gun as I like a heavier gun. But Akai make great stuff!!! Edited November 27, 2018 by TRPOperator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisstophere Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 4 hours ago, glockman75 said: ... Also met all of their team shooters and learned a lot about tuning the guns, powder selection, bullet choices, springs etc. Thanks guys! ... Do you mind sharing what you learned from those guys? I also run an Akai in 9 major and I don't have a lot of info about it in regards to what you've mentioned above. In fact, I had to learn about cutting a coil off the recoil spring from a podcast since it's a stroked gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockman75 Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Absolutely beautiful!!! Drooling!!! Could you give specific about the build, pros and cons.. I'm looking to get into open this coming year and akai is one of my contenders as my top blaster. Thanks I think the ultimate build is:4.5” slide, 5” barrel, stroked, long heavy dust cover, tungsten sleeved barrel (currently have regular bull barrel but next Gun will be tungsten sleeved), Steel old school comp (next one will be titanium old school comp), thumb rest (type personal pref, I like Nitro fin), safeties (personal pref, I like double taps). Dot: Leupold DPPGrip: PT EvoMagwell: Dawson Ice AluminumTrigger: (Personal pref) Infinity Flat short for me.Recoil spring: 7lbs Wolff variable cut 3 coils.Shock buff: (3) Aluminum for stroked gun. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) . Edited November 27, 2018 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 You crushed it this year. I currently have a pretty much identical build going right now with Shay. Can you share your 9 major load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 55 minutes ago, d_striker said: You crushed it this year. I currently have a pretty much identical build going right now with Shay. Can you share your 9 major load? if you do not mind sharing, what time frame on the build are they giving you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 59 minutes ago, Furrly said: if you do not mind sharing, what time frame on the build are they giving you I placed my order about a month ago. Shay happened to have a gun that was already half built that happened to be what I was looking for which is what Glockman75 posted in his OP. He said it might be around two months. Who knows though. Seemed like they got pretty busy right after Nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockman75 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 It was a good year! Current 9mm load is this:124 JHP 9.7 AA7 1.165 CCI SPPAkai wait time depends on what they’ve got in the oven so to speak.I think normal build time is 8 months, if they’ve got something in the hopper maybe 4-6 months. I think it took 8 months for my twins order but they were 100% custom.I’m not sure what kind of back log they have. They have some sweet enhancements that make their guns return fast and shoot flat. I whole heartedly recommend them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockman75 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 Do you mind sharing what you learned from those guys? I also run an Akai in 9 major and I don't have a lot of info about it in regards to what you've mentioned above. In fact, I had to learn about cutting a coil off the recoil spring from a podcast since it's a stroked gun.I learned that the team guys are pushing the limits of everything. They test the guns looking for any mechanical advantage. They cut recoil and main springs until the point of failure then try again. I learned that it feels softer the lighter the recoil spring and the less coils it has, until it no longer functions. I’m using a 7 lbs variable with 3 coils cut and 3 aluminum shock buffs (since I have a stroked gun) thanks to their testing. It shoots great. Also switched from WAC to AA7 per their input.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBunniFuFu Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Meh. They're okay guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisstophere Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 14 hours ago, glockman75 said: ... I’m using a 7 lbs variable with 3 coils cut and 3 aluminum shock buffs (since I have a stroked gun) thanks to their testing. It shoots great. Also switched from WAC to AA7 per their input. Why the shock buffs? Wouldn't that essentially negate the stroking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakay Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 14 hours ago, glockman75 said: I learned that the team guys are pushing the limits of everything. They test the guns looking for any mechanical advantage. They cut recoil and main springs until the point of failure then try again. I learned that it feels softer the lighter the recoil spring and the less coils it has, until it no longer functions. I’m using a 7 lbs variable with 3 coils cut and 3 aluminum shock buffs (since I have a stroked gun) thanks to their testing. It shoots great. Also switched from WAC to AA7 per their input. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thanks for sharing what you have learned. Curious about the recoil spring. How does cutting 3 coils off a 7# variable compare to a 6# or 5# variable spring? How often do you have to change these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRPOperator Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 glockman75 I will have to try the shock buffs. 17 minutes ago, Balakay said: Thanks for sharing what you have learned. Curious about the recoil spring. How does cutting 3 coils off a 7# variable compare to a 6# or 5# variable spring? How often do you have to change these? I also run a cut 7# variable. part of the reason to cut them is to make sure you get the full slide motion and it is not stopping at the compression of the spring. By cutting it I am sure you are also lowering the #, but its more about the "shortening" of the spring that will also cycle the gun to get the maximum slide travel. Most people try from around 6# up to 9# or so, mine would either dip or not come back to where I wanted it, but the 7# worked great. I change my recoil and firing pin spring about every 5K rounds. Change my main spring around 10K or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRPOperator Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 15 hours ago, glockman75 said: It was a good year! Current 9mm load is this: 124 JHP 9.7 AA7 1.165 CCI SPP What PF you getting out of that load? I run 124 PD JHP, 1.165, 9.4 AA7, Fed MagPistol, and get around 175 PF I am running a full length gun though so I have a little more barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersonj55126 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, chrisstophere said: Why the shock buffs? Wouldn't that essentially negate the stroking? Yes, they negate the stroking. But if you start with a stroked gun and clipped recoil spring you then can experiment with 0 to 5 shock buffs. The buffs will change how the recoil feels and how the dot lifts. Some like a slow rising dot that is trackable and some like rapid less trackable dot rise but also faster returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockman75 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 ^^Agreed ^^Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronicTwitch Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 22 hours ago, LilBunniFuFu said: Meh. They're okay guns. Lol. Well played! Congrats on A class! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANFARM Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Thanks for this info.....very interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockman75 Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 What PF you getting out of that load? I run 124 PD JHP, 1.165, 9.4 AA7, Fed MagPistol, and get around 175 PF I am running a full length gun though so I have a little more barrel. I’m getting 169 PF ishSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRPOperator Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 12 hours ago, glockman75 said: I’m getting 169 PF ish Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thanks, I am sure you tried and I have heard lots others say that sometimes higher PF have less dot movement from gas. I didn't really see much of a diff on mine, but at my level I might not see it. I run it at 175 because that it was felt good to me and the PF wasnt to crazy. So I am guessing your load is the same for you, based on movement and feel etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highhope Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) very nice! have you ever shot the "new comp" Akai guns? Do you like the "old school comp" better than the new? Thanks a lot Edited November 30, 2018 by highhope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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