rowdyb Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Seriously thinking of selling my STI Eagle that is my back up for Limited to buy, or trade for, a 9mm single stack gun. I'd have no back up, but I'd be able to shoot another division. Hmmm.... not sure. I have a nice Limited gun and I take time to keep it fresh and functioning. I am not classified in SS. What's what you find more worthwhile? A back up gun or something for a new division??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDeVille Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I have a double stack 9mm and a single stack .45 right now. As a new competitor I plan on switching division until I gravitate towards one. Maybe I'll have a backup pistol for that division if at all. I am planning a single stack 9mm, just because.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 yeah, i've had back up guns before but they just sat. i've never had to use a back up gun in a match. i hhhhaavve had to use them in the past while the main gun was down for repairs to continue practicing, but never in a match. i'm undecided on what's "worth more" to me. a back up gun i don't ever have to use. or a gun for a division i'm not classified in but would be something new. (kinda sounds like i know what i'm trying to sell myself on..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDeVille Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Life is too short to shoot one division, I have all the junk to shoot heavy metal 3 gun, but I bought a double stack 9 and a semi shotgun for no reason. I havent delved into the STI world yet, it's tempting, and I'm not sure if I want a Shadow 2 also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touji Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Are you travelling to major matches shooting limited? If not, I would say grab the 9mm SS. If your limited gun goes down and gets sent to the smith, just shoot SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmann Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I have a STI Spartan V I’ll part with!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 bra....you know the drill.....sell that thing and get an atlas single stack!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 9 hours ago, rowdyb said: i'm undecided on what's "worth more" to me Tough to decide for you. Backup gun is MUCH more important for me, since I'm shooting OPEN, and don't plan on shooting anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsk Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 If you are traveling for majors, then you need a backup. Save your pennies for a SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 i traveled to 14 major matches a year two years in a row and never ever once needed my back up gun at the match. (albeit in Prod, not Lim) i've always had two sp01 shadows but never used the designated back up gun. where i found it more valuable was as a back up practice gun. true, it is my decision. but sometimes i make bad ones that maybe if i'd talked to more people i might have formed a more complete or nuanced opinion for myself. hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrswanson1 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Be different. Try PCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 This can be a tough one to call. If you are putting a lot of rounds downrange in practice and going to quite a few major matches a back up makes sense. On the other hand, if you maintain your gun well and have fitted spare parts in your inventory maybe a gun for another division starts looking more attractive. Barring an unforeseen catastrophe (aren't they all?) I think I'd go with the chance to shoot more divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 If your gun goes down at the match " you lost"! At that point someone will let you borrow a gun. Imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterDrew Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I’d say consider how much you’re shooting each season with your limited Guns. If you’re shooting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterDrew Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I’m not sure why but I’ve typed a much longer response 2x and it’s not posting correctly.... Tapatalk problems I guess. I’ll try again later Long story short: I’d keep the back up gun available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacB Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I keep a backup gun, but I don’t care if it’s an exact match. Like you’ve mentioned, it’s so rare that a gun goes down hard enough to warrant switching to a backup. I use a stock Glock 22 with a few extended mags as my backup for limited. If a main gun goes down, the match is probably degraded to such a point that having a second 2011 wouldn’t be enough to recover. If it were me, I’d find any cheap/reliable gun to use as a backup and put the rest towards what you want. A LEO trade in plastic fantastic and basepads can be had for pretty cheap. Then less money is sitting in the range bag as match insurance. I’m assuming you already have an extra parts kit with the commonly broken and easy to replace parts to get your main rig running at the safety table (slide stops, firing pins, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoKimberDave Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Well, first off it just hurts to see Rowdy talking about guns other than CZ's. I think you should get a fun gun to shoot another division! My backup gun just sits there, and the more I look at it, the more it looks like something else I want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 I guess the only thing that keeps me from getting a 9mm SS gun is then I ask, how is this different (in the shooting) than what I was doing in Production? Yeah I could probably double it up as an ESP gun as well but still..... And NoKimberDave you'll be happy to know CZ is still my preferred thing. 51 minutes ago, NoKimberDave said: Well, first off it just hurts to see Rowdy talking about guns other than CZ's. I think you should get a fun gun to shoot another division! My backup gun just sits there, and the more I look at it, the more it looks like something else I want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoKimberDave Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, rowdyb said: I guess the only thing that keeps me from getting a 9mm SS gun is then I ask, how is this different (in the shooting) than what I was doing in Production? Yeah I could probably double it up as an ESP gun as well but still..... And NoKimberDave you'll be happy to know CZ is still my preferred thing. OK. All is right with the world again. Don't want to lose you as an important CZ shooting/customizing resource man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdnok Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 6:41 AM, Hi-Power Jack said: Tough to decide for you. Backup gun is MUCH more important for me, since I'm shooting OPEN, and don't plan on shooting anything else Mostly me...... since I just purchased a new Shadow 2. Open guns have more things to go wrong. It's kinda like bringing a raincoat so it doesn't rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackCage Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, IsaacB said: I keep a backup gun, but I don’t care if it’s an exact match. Like you’ve mentioned, it’s so rare that a gun goes down hard enough to warrant switching to a backup. I use a stock Glock 22 with a few extended mags as my backup for limited. If a main gun goes down, the match is probably degraded to such a point that having a second 2011 wouldn’t be enough to recover. If it were me, I’d find any cheap/reliable gun to use as a backup and put the rest towards what you want. A LEO trade in plastic fantastic and basepads can be had for pretty cheap. Then less money is sitting in the range bag as match insurance. I’m assuming you already have an extra parts kit with the commonly broken and easy to replace parts to get your main rig running at the safety table (slide stops, firing pins, etc). The main issue I see with this is holster and mag compatability. If your back up is so different from your primary, now you're bringing two sets of mags and a second holster. Yes, cheaper than a close match of your primary gun, but not very convenient from a gear perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacB Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 23 minutes ago, TrackCage said: The main issue I see with this is holster and mag compatability. If your back up is so different from your primary, now you're bringing two sets of mags and a second holster. Yes, cheaper than a close match of your primary gun, but not very convenient from a gear perspective. You’re not wrong. I think the inconvenience is minimal, but your situation may vary. For me it isn’t a big deal. The same pouches work for both mags. Three Glock mags and an extra paddle holster doesn’t take up an appreciable amount of space vs. just an extra 2011. I thought it would be worth mentioning since the only two other options presented were keep the extra 2011 or sell it and have no backup at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacB Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 One thing I didn’t think of is ammo. If you loan long, the cheap plastic backup idea probably wouldn’t work for you. I load 40 at 1.140 so it works in all of my platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 well right now my main is an Atlas Titan. my back up is an STI Eagle. Both in 40. Both take the same mags and can run the same ammo. Eagle fits just fine in my holster for the Titan. So nothing is that onerous for me in having a back up. Other than the fact that historically I've never needed one. Seeing that dollar amount sitting around in my back up gun makes me want something else with it more than the insurance of a back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVC502 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Like you I don’t have a backup Gun but have a Limited major 2011 which is my primary and a SS and Production Gun as my backups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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