36873687 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I’m brand new to open.have many to help local. Including a gm an a master. Got great deal on a 38 super Comp gun. Wanting to practice with blue bullets. Don’t want to screw up a brand new open gun. Please any that have done it an shoot matches with hi teck or blue Bullets an the concerns of doing it. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traingq Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Ive run BBI through my STI Watchmaster. Smokey but they ran. I have not tried them yet but seems like others have tried blue bullets with success. From what I've heard they keep the barrel clean but may lead up the comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewbeck Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I haven’t shot either two but have put maybe 15-18k of eggleston thru my guns without any concern of issue to the gun. This included a lot of 115gr at 175ish PF. Smoke was no different for me with these but others may vary. In my experience the difference with coated lead and jacketed is the ease of accuracy when reloading. With jacketed you can get away with overcrimping the crap out of them withou a huge loss in accuracy. With coated lead it’s much easier to swage the bullet with to much crimp so that’s where most people screw up while using them. to set crimp unscrew your crimp die until it doesn’t touch the round when the press is fully canned over. Then let the handle down just enough to feel a little pressure as you tighten the crimp die roughly an 1/8 turn. Check case gauge and push as hard as you can against a bench and measure OAL to see if there is any setback issues. the biggest challenge with a lighter crimp is making sure your case length is pretty consistent as any change in length will change the amount of crimp on the round. Manufacturers case length can vary so it’s really best to sort them by manufacturer and set the crimp as you load them in batches. Just my experience but I had planned to only shoot them for practice but soon decided there was not point in loading different ammo for majors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) As said above there is no real problem with coated I've shoot over 20k of Bayou and about 10+k of blue bullets If you notice any build up in the comp a few rounds of jacketed will blow the residue out usually. I like the cost savings which turns into more shooting I use them for everything, local and bigger matches I've got a small supply of jacketed left from when I switched, I keep those for "comp cleaning". Usually not needed! Edited November 19, 2017 by jcc7x7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetAwayDriva Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I shot about 900 bayou bullets through my trubor when I first got it. (I was coming from limited 40 and the thought that coated would be way cheaper than jacketed). I couldn't believe how much lead built up in my comp and shooting Montana golds afterwards did not clean out the lead. I decided I did not want to chip that stuff out all of the time after spending several hours doing it once. I also found that jacketed and even plated bullets were not that much more in cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Yes, PD JHPs are about $19 more per thousand than coated lead, in bulk (2k or more). MG is about $26 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM83 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 RMR comes out to $74.70 on their 124 JHP if you wait for a 10% coupon and buy in major bulk (20k). Their 115/124 FMJ are even less expensive. Good people, great bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I shot coated for quite awhile in open due to the cost savings, and was never happy with them. They weren't as accurate, weren't as clean, and smoke like a freight train in comparison to jacketed. And for the record, I do like shooting coated bullets in the other divisions, I just don't think open is the proper venue for them. I tried 3 different coated bullet companies I liked and had luck in other calibers with previously, with the same result.I eventually switched to Precision Delta 115 JHP and shot several thousand of them, but the bullet profile didn't work well with my gun so I switched to Everglades. JHP or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunDQ Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I agree with @Gooldylocks I run them in non-comp guns with no issue, but in open I prefer a JHP (MontanaGold 124s for me). There are a good amount of shooters in my area running The Blue Bullets in open but I am not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I agree with [mention=51075]Gooldylocks[/mention] I run them in non-comp guns with no issue, but in open I prefer a JHP (MontanaGold 124s for me). There are a good amount of shooters in my area running The Blue Bullets in open but I am not one of them. And we still need to cure you of your MG ailment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 hours ago, teros135 said: Yes, PD JHPs are about $19 more per thousand than coated lead, in bulk (2k or more). MG is about $26 more. Thats not bad really. Got some PD on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 Thanks guys I’ll see how it goes. I’ll try some of both. I’m coming from limited an had shot nothing but blue an bayou. In every gun I️ owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumprun13k Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I run Falcon's in my Match Master with zero issues. But a friend of mine tried them and had massive leading. Try it and see, only way to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 I️ tested a few yesterday. All seems fine.used Dillon case lube in Comp. An ultra sonic cleaned. Happy with what I️ seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I won't shoot lead or coated bullets in any of my comp'd guns. Wait for a sale and stock up on Rainier plated, or X-Treme plated. Cost is the same as good poly coated. Everything stays cleaner. A lesser reason is the plated and jacketed bullets feed properly from my bullet feeder, where most poly coated do not. Also, buying jacketed by the case brings the cost of almost all of them under 10 cents each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I did some research with the same question but concerned if coated bullets would lead up suppressors. There's too many variables to say yes or no - barrel length, bullet type, powder, crimp , velocity etc The only way to know for sure is shoot some out of your gun and recover the bullets. If there is still coating where the bullet contacts the rifling and on the base your good. Exposed lead on the back half of the bullets means you'll get lead in the comp. For me coated thru suppressors is a no go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jht05016 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I shot blues in my open guns for about a year till i hit master. The blues work. But they have some drawbacks. Good amount of lead deposits in the comp after 2k rds or so, super smokey and with lead at open velocities you will get a flyer of 1 to 2 inches off every 20rds or so. Ymmv, and i will still use them on occasion for practice. But the cost difference is negligable enough that PD 124 jhp is just a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamboSoup22 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I’ve shot blues through my open as well. It does work. I haven’t shot enough of them in open to clog up the comp yet but others are right. The PD is a good deal and won’t require the same amount of maintenance as the blues. I’ve recently made the switch to PDs. Also with the blues no matter what I tried I wasn’t able to keep a good consistent group at 25 yards in my open pistol. They were fine up to about 20 and at 15 they were just as good as the PDs in accuracy. The accuracy of the PDs at 25 yards was my deciding factor in switching over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Tested a few blues. An was getting crazy groups at 20 to 25 yards also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncman Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Blues run great in my new build but I do get some lead. I did as Jcc7x7 said and ran a few mags of jacketed and the comp came clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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