teros135 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) Uh oh, here we go again... Isn't the definition in the rule book? Edit: Yep. Appendix A3 (Glossary). The gun doesn't have to hit the ground, and it's a call "even if it is trapped against part of the body or caught in midair" (p. 58 of the current rule book). Edited May 10, 2016 by teros135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Uh oh, here we go again... Isn't the definition in the rule book? Yes it is, page 58. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Interesting comment Jay about the Revolver shooters not DQ-ing as much just by slightly changing the start position. For single stack you started strong hand on the door knob. Several people on my squad considered opening the door before drawing, I think only one did it in the end. The shooting area was small and there wasn't much room to engage the left target with the door open. For the revolver match your hand wasn't on the door, everyone opened it after shooting the targets to either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdavis385 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Many of the DQ's were early in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent1k1 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Hungover RO's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayWord Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Hungover RO's? In my experience, a number of DQs occur early in the day. Nervous/hyped up shooters! Remember, each day is a new set of shooters. One day format. Jay Besides, you know ROs don't drink. Edited May 20, 2016 by JayWord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I'm thinking that anyone who had to cancel last minute shows up on the stats as a dq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent1k1 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 That's not a DQ. The shooter is just removed from the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I'm thinking that anyone who had to cancel last minute shows up on the stats as a dq? That is not a DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 At the Area 1 match a couple of weeks ago, there were a number of DQ's on the results sheet, as well as a number of 0.00 scores. I'm assuming the 0.00 were no shows which tells me that "no shows" aren't listed as DQ's at level III matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 At the Area 1 match a couple of weeks ago, there were a number of DQ's on the results sheet, as well as a number of 0.00 scores. I'm assuming the 0.00 were no shows which tells me that "no shows" aren't listed as DQ's at level III matches. Only DQ'S should be listed as a DQ. No shows will show a Zero score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBOpen Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I delete no-shows before final results are posted outside the match. No point in paying activity fees on uncollected revenue (Level I, pay on arrival.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnkill Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 On 5/10/2016 at 12:06 PM, Sarge said: Jack, you need a rule book in the bathroom like I have. I wear rule books out by reading them so much and still miss the occasional odd ball rule. I had to DQ a guy at a major once for ejecting a snap cap in a safe area. Kind of a double whammy. Lol Sarge, that’s exactly where one of my copies is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 On 5/9/2016 at 7:30 PM, TISCHLJ said: Sometimes, when shooters,are given lax rules at local level 1 matches bad habits manifest themselves. When those shooters get to a major match, and penalties are applied accordingly, they learn the error of their ways...this is why the USPSA rules must be applied consistently across the board at all matches... Agreed. The way I look at it, it's much better to learn the hard way at a local match than a major match on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jts2581 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 5/9/2016 at 9:05 AM, rooster said: Was just looking at the ss match results and noticed there were about 16 DQ's. That seems to be an extraordinaly high number. Can anybody give an run down on what was going on. had a buddy get hit with a super questionable 180 call. We watched the video multiple times. It clearly wasn't in violation. bummer for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 27 minutes ago, Jts2581 said: had a buddy get hit with a super questionable 180 call. We watched the video multiple times. It clearly wasn't in violation. bummer for sure. Super questionable or clearly wasn’t. Which is it? Video is not allowed for a reason. I have personally DQ’d a shooter for 180 and had multiple people in agreement and when somebody showed me video of the call it looked like he was nowhere near the 180! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jts2581 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (Clearly wasn’t) I totally agree with you saying sometimes it’s hard to tell where the 180 lone is in videos. But this particular stage, there was a barricade right in front of him that ran along with the 180. So it was pretty easy to tell. I think the No Video rule is something that needs to be changed in USPSA. We use it in 3 Gun. It’s helped me out on 2 different occasions. Saved me a precedural on one occasion and a no shoot on another. Obviously there has to be stipulations on where and when you can use it, but I personally think it would come in handy in certain situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Jts2581 said: I think the No Video rule is something that needs to be changed in USPSA. We use it in 3 Gun. It’s helped me out on 2 different occasions. Saved me a precedural on one occasion and a no shoot on another. Obviously there has to be stipulations on where and when you can use it, but I personally think it would come in handy in certain situations. So it gives you a significant competitive advantage over folks who do not video or who have lesser video skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jts2581 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I know every shooter out there wilould be more than willing to video someone if they asked. Out of all the 3 gun matches I’ve been to, the video has prob only came out less than 10x. It’s more about making the right call and getting what you earned during your coarse of fire. It literally causes zero issues in 3 Gun. I don’t know why is would be any different in uspsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent1k1 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The obvious question and I don't feel like scrolling back to see if it was asked. "If video can be used to exonerate a procedure, can my video of you be used to add a procedure like a foot fault or extra fault against one of my competitors?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Jts2581 said: I know every shooter out there wilould be more than willing to video someone if they asked. Out of desire to not be rude I will do it if I don't have a reason I can't, the 'more than willing' train never comes near though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jts2581 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I think either or is ok. But I doubt any competitor is going to request an to to look at their phone to add a procedural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Trent1k1 said: The obvious question and I don't feel like scrolling back to see if it was asked. "If video can be used to exonerate a procedure, can my video of you be used to add a procedure like a foot fault or extra fault against one of my competitors?" I think if it is allowed, then it is allowed, and if it aint , it aint. And I would be videoing everyone and giving them all procedurals hahahahaha (that was an evil laugh, if you couldn't tell). In all seriousness, if it is about getting calls right, then you would have to allow videos from everybody and apply or remove penalties as necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jts2581 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I agree, but people only go to the video if there’s some sort of discrepancy. Can’t be holding Jon the whole match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now