bret Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 What is a good soft shooting 9mm load? My 14 year old daughter shoots some with a G34, the loads I have seem pretty snappy. Would like to get her something that shoots a little softer. The same loads are pretty soft in a 1911, so it must be the plastic fantastic that is causing it to be more snappy. I have all kinds of different powders, CSB 1, Unique, Titegroup, Clay Dot, E3 and a few others. I have some 115 grain lead and plated projectiles as well as 124 FMJ. Not too concerned about power factor since these are club level matches with no chronograph. But 125 or a little over would be nice if she does decide to shoot a bigger match with me later. She can shoot my STI Edge, .40 with major loads better, but I prefer her to shoot the glock rather than her having to deal with a manual safety, a light trigger and very little takeup. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 The latest soft loads for 9mm are using the 160 grain bullets. You can almost see them going downrange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastluck13 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 You might want to try some heavier bullets. 147s? Bayou is inexpensive and you can buy in small amounts to test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 I have some 115 and 124 grain commercially loaded ammo, the 115 seems softer. That is why I figured the 115 would be a good start. I shoot heavier bullets in my .40 and it works out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 As others have said, use the heaviest bullet you have, in your case 124's. Then use the fastest powder you can that requires the fewest grains of powder to safely make the velocity you are going for. Titegroup, Clay Dot, and E3 could all be decent options, look in loading manuals, on powder manufacture websites, or here for ideas, but always work up a load slowly with a chrono, keeping an eye on primers and other pressure signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Here is a post on a nice reduced load using E3; http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=220395 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtimelarry Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 If you want a super buttery soft load try 124 gr - 4.0 gr N320 and use a 13b ISMI recoil spring.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Not too concerned about power factor since these are club level matches with no chronograph. If local matches have steel, she still needs to knock them down, so best to stay at 128 or so. If you can get your hands on some 147's, she should be set. For practice, before the match, you might want to try to Very Light loads (PF110) with light bullets and just enough powder to work the slide. That will get her used to the gun. Then give her some of the 147's a week before her first match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtimelarry Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Not too concerned about power factor since these are club level matches with no chronograph. If local matches have steel, she still needs to knock them down, so best to stay at 128 or so. If you can get your hands on some 147's, she should be set. For practice, before the match, you might want to try to Very Light loads (PF110) with light bullets and just enough powder to work the slide. That will get her used to the gun. Then give her some of the 147's a week before her first match. You forgot the 11lb recoil spring.. That gun won't run 110 pf unless you use an 11lb recoil spring.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revofan Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 124gr 3.8gr titegroup rt around 128pf nice soft load but stiil powerfull enough to knock down steel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I run PF110 in my BHP and my KelTec with std springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtimelarry Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I thought he said she was shooting a Glock 34 ? Anyone on here think a Glock 34 can run 110 pf with a Stock Recoil spring ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 I thought he said she was shooting a Glock 34 ? Anyone on here think a Glock 34 can run 110 pf with a Stock Recoil spring ?? It's a Gen 4 Glock 34, I need to get a one piece guide rod so I can change recoil springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtimelarry Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Get the Gen 4 Stainless Steel guide rod from Jager. http://jagerproducts.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Like others have said, get some coated lead 147gr projectiles and put them over 2.9-3.0 grains of titegroup, or 2.8-2.9 grains of e3. That load gets me low 130's PF out of my XDM 5.25, should be similar in a G34. Those loads still shoot very soft and accurate. Lead or coated lead will always shoot softer than FMJ bullets as they seal the bore better and require less powder to get the same power factor. BTW, good for you getting your daughter into the shooting sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmanktm Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 X-treme 165gr with Tight Group shoots super soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 I just found a bunch of 125 grain cast lead bullets, it's a Glock so I know lead is something to be careful of, I will try some and order some plated bullets, I need some more .40 anyway. Thanks for the help, I am trying to get her involved and make it enjoyable for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Thanks Edited September 22, 2015 by bret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Bayou 147gr over 2.8gr of Clay Dot. Those are bunny fart soft. Not sure how it translates to plastic fantastics, but I run a 9# ISMI recoil spring in my 2011 with those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 147 COATED,projectile and Vithavouri N320 powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfturner Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 147 bayou with 3.7 of WSF ... Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhand Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 147 bayou with 3.7 of WSF ... Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk I run a very similar load in my stock Gen 4 Glock 17 and 19. 147 gr SNS Casting (coated) bullet, 3.6 gr WSF at 1.135 OAL. Extremely soft shooting and accurate. 3.4 gr WSF will cycle my Glocks reliably, but you may need to a little more powder to cycle a Glock 34. I use N320 as well, but the recoil is sharper with the same bullets. 3.2 gr N320 at 1.135 OAL pushing a 147 gr bullet. I've worked up loads for 124/125 gr bullets, but they're snappier than 147 gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 165gr xtremes over 2.7 of TG at 1.148. 129pf in my shadow, zero pressure signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyVey Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 124 either Extreme or Acme with 2.8 grains of Titewad is the softest load I have tried. However, I am not sure how it will work with a G34, but it works extremely well with my Walther PPQ's, in both barrel lengths. Just had this past Sunday one of our range officers shot a few and he was absolutely stunned how soft this load is; he said this would be perfect for his girl. Very little recoil, not snappy at all. Will try it in my G34 in the next days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Titewad is one step faster than titegroup right? So I'm assuming you cannot make it to minor pf with that powder? I do realize the OP is not concerned with pf, I'm just curious. Edited September 23, 2015 by EngineerEli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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