.40AET Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Any updates on the 40 Caspian mags? Were there any on display at the SHOT show? Scott- WTF!!! If you are moving to Caspian.......we have to talk before you have the next sale. Alan- Big pile of help you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 The availability of mags is the only reason I didn't go with a Caspian frame in this new open gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott G Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Scott- WTF!!! If you are moving to Caspian.......we have to talk before you have the next sale. Don't know what you're talking about But let's talk in about 10 weeks, cuz all hell is going to break loose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 cuz all hell is going to break loose! Ahhhhh.....the final piece to take you from M to GM. I can't hardly wait to see it. On another subject. My rifle is finished and I have a case of ammo sitting in my truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interceptor Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 The availability of mags is the only reason I didn't go with a Caspian frame in this new open gun. Same here, that's the reason I had a custom gun built on a Springer hi-cap frame. Almost definitely would have gotten a Caspian built if they had mags. Hell, I was going to throw caution at the wind on the promise that they would have mags last spring. They are missing the boat completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott G Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 On another subject. My rifle is finished and I have a case of ammo sitting in my truck. Sweet, all we need is for another 18 inches of snow to melt ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 So are the only Caspian mags available are the "old style" 19rnd .38 Super magazines? What length are these? ~140mm? No 170mm in .38 Super? No 9mm, .40S&W, or .45ACP in any length? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 ProMag makes them , they are garbage compared to SVI mags. Travis T has a "how to" convert them to hold 20 rounds of .40 on Max's site. I have 4 and after some help from Virgil Tripp on how to set up the barrel's feed ramp they have worked 100% for the 500 rounds I've put through my Caspain high cap. I would still love to see someone get some high quality mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) So they make the frame with or without a rail and even in Ti, but there aren't any mags. Makes you wonder. My guess is that they don't think there is enough demand to warrant the setup costs - too long to recoup the investment. Sigh. Edited February 16, 2006 by vincent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) ok, but was it worth tooling up to put a light rail on a high cap.....that you don't make mags for? Ain't no good reason for this, just shooting themselves in the foot. Personally I think the Caspian High Caps are interesting, and they have a small but dedicated following. BUT: Every time someone gets interested in them, you have to address the problem of mags. Some folks like metal guns. Paras are better than they once were, but they are cast, and you can get a true custom from Caspian parts. I think Caspian is missing out. It might be interesting to see what market share they could capture if they produced mags and frames, or even complete guns, with a real delivery time and price (more STI than SV to use an example). Or if some semi custom shop like BAer or Wilson bought 1000 frames, and maybe 3-4000 mags and offered complete guns in line with STI's prices. Sort of a higher-end all metal high cap, that fit smaller hands. I think in the $1600-2200 range you'd sell a bunch. And not just to us, over on 1911forum.org guys who probably only shoot 500 rounds a year are buying high dollar Springer TRP's and Pro's as fast as they can be made. What if there was a sexy, all metal high cap out there that was limited ready right out of the box? Checkering, light rails, custom ser #, slim wood grips, good feel..... They're missing out. Edited February 16, 2006 by dirtypool40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Problem is they know they're missing out, and don't seem to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) Just a quick response. I talk with Gary on a regular basis, and I know while it seems to be the same ole story the word I get is they are working on the .40 mags. I understand that 38 Super mags are available but they do not have a 170mag. There are a few gunsmiths that can take two and weld them together which does get pricey to do that mod. Also, the 38Super mags work for 9mm with no adjustments. And yes Gary does know they are missing out at the moment. Alan Edited February 16, 2006 by Alan Meek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I spoke with Gary a year and half ago, a year ago, and about six months ago about the status of new Caspian .40 mags. They have been "in development". When I pointed out how many Limited gun frame sales they were missing out on, his reply was something to the extent of "yup, we're missing the boat alright. Oh well, our fault, we've been busy on other projects" and he went on to say he was still waiting, patiently, for some unnamed supplier to present him with the new .40 tubes for his inspection. I tried the tuned Promag route, but couldn't get them running 100% (or even 95%). Not Caspian bashing or anything, just FYI; but I guess I'll keep waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Man Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Market timing is everything. Excitment can be created with a carrot on a stick; but not forever. Caspian makes me feel like a man without a nation, or what ever that saying was. But I had all the magazines I needed before 09.14.94. FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipscbob Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Too bad. I really prefer the overall feel and handling of their frame to the STI. Although, with 4 STI based guns in the safe right now, I am well past the point of no return. This last year I passed up two really nice Caspian based open guns because of this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Totally lame. What DP suggests would be great. Fred Craig used to do that but he had to provide his own mags because Caspian left everyone hi&dry during the Decade of Brady. I'll bite my tongue on the subject of Caspian making Glock slides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANDGUNNER Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I am not waiting any more on extra capacity 9/38 mags for the caspian hi-cap frames, We are starting to make our own extended base pads. Caspian is missing the boat on a few things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 yup, if you had a Caspian High cap, with swap top ends in .41 AE, 9x25, and 10mm and NO MAGS you might just have the ultimate "white elephant". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_T Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I'm extremely sorry for recommending the pro mags if they're not working. Please let me know and I'll do all I can to help you guys get them running 100%. TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott G Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I'm extremely sorry for recommending the pro mags if they're not working. Please let me know and I'll do all I can to help you guys get them running 100%. TT That's awesome TT, thanks. I just sent a Caspian frame and some Promag tubes to Matt M, so I may take you up on that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_T Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Scott- My pleasure and congrats! Just get the components that I specified and tell Mathew to give me a ring if there are any questions. Look me up at a match and I’ll show you what the new mags are going to look like. Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 TT, you don't remember me, I met you at FL Open last year, and again you get my vote for one of the nicest guys I ever met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Everybody and their brother and their dog is selling single-stacks by the truckload (to whom, I'm not sure, but selling they are). Given Caspian's OEM involvement in that business, I would bet they probably could move 10+ SS frames to 1 hicap, even if they had mags out the wazoo. I'd love to see Caspian mags all over the place, but business is business.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Man Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Everybody and their brother and their dog is selling single-stacks by the truckload (to whom, I'm not sure, but selling they are). Given Caspian's OEM involvement in that business, I would bet they probably could move 10+ SS frames to 1 hicap, even if they had mags out the wazoo. I'd love to see Caspian mags all over the place, but business is business.. And it is HIS business. Gary has to run it as he see's fit. He has been self employed a long time; he knows how to do something right. FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Lombardo Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 When a company like Caspian is 5-6 weeks out on a slide and 2-6 months out on a frame, it is clear they are not missing out on anything. They are making as much as they can, 7 days a week, and prospering. The mags are coming! It will shake up the racegun market! It will be worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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