AWLAZS Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Any one try the Akai gill comp on their own build? Edited October 19, 2014 by AWLAZS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnyglock Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I have built three with the gill comp. I like them. Of course its a comp that works better with holes in the barrel. I built one like the katana and one in a v6 patern. Both are flat and fast shooting. The v6 is a little softer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I've tried many different comps over the years, and in the end decided it really didn't matter unless they were absolutely terrible. I can make more difference in how the gun reacts with grip pressure and springs than by changing comps. I had this exact discussion with Matt McLearn about two weeks ago...he said the same thing. Pick one, get used to it, tune your load for it, and then go practice. A super, super flat gun won't help you shoot any better, and can make shot calling/dot tracking harder. In fact, I think the balance point of the gun is another factor that's far more important than the comp setup...get that right and the comp has less to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianATL Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 THIS ^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Any one try the Akai gill comp on their own build? I have built three with the gill comp. I like them. Of course its a comp that works better with holes in the barrel. I built one like the katana and one in a v6 patern. Both are flat and fast shooting. The v6 is a little softer. I agree with Donny. It needs barrel holes. Works great with a 4 port hybrid. Its also the loudest comp I've ever heard! Keeps ROs from crowding you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Chris: I have to say you are wrong. There is a difference when a comp is working like it should. If you test different comps and try different loads with those comps you will see that some work a lot better than others. Sure if you want to drill some holes in a barrel and add lots of powder to make power factor it will work. The side effect is a harsh shooting gun. If you want a gun that shoots flat and is softer on the hand then design a comp to do that. I am not a GM but I do know that a timer does not lie. I will agree that balance is important and setting the gun up for your style of shooting is also important. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerburgess Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I've tried many different comps over the years, and in the end decided it really didn't matter unless they were absolutely terrible. I can make more difference in how the gun reacts with grip pressure and springs than by changing comps. I had this exact discussion with Matt McLearn about two weeks ago...he said the same thing. Pick one, get used to it, tune your load for it, and then go practice. A super, super flat gun won't help you shoot any better, and can make shot calling/dot tracking harder. In fact, I think the balance point of the gun is another factor that's far more important than the comp setup...get that right and the comp has less to do. Wait you mean to say that buying the latest greatest new comp won't make me a better shooter? (yes this is sarcasm) I shoot a 357 sig GLOCK with a small comp that i know is not the greatest, but I am sure so far it is not what is holding me back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctay Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Maybe the best comp isn't the most important feature, but it can't hurt... I can tell the difference between the Dawson I previously ran and Eric's comp I use now. Times improved as well. Balance and pointability (is that a word?) are very important but comp is important too in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I've tried many different comps over the years, and in the end decided it really didn't matter unless they were absolutely terrible. I can make more difference in how the gun reacts with grip pressure and springs than by changing comps. I had this exact discussion with Matt McLearn about two weeks ago...he said the same thing. Pick one, get used to it, tune your load for it, and then go practice. A super, super flat gun won't help you shoot any better, and can make shot calling/dot tracking harder. In fact, I think the balance point of the gun is another factor that's far more important than the comp setup...get that right and the comp has less to do. Wait you mean to say that buying the latest greatest new comp won't make me a better shooter? (yes this is sarcasm) I shoot a 357 sig GLOCK with a small comp that i know is not the greatest, but I am sure so far it is not what is holding me back You're right. It's the Glock AND shooting 357 sig that's holding you back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerburgess Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I've tried many different comps over the years, and in the end decided it really didn't matter unless they were absolutely terrible. I can make more difference in how the gun reacts with grip pressure and springs than by changing comps. I had this exact discussion with Matt McLearn about two weeks ago...he said the same thing. Pick one, get used to it, tune your load for it, and then go practice. A super, super flat gun won't help you shoot any better, and can make shot calling/dot tracking harder. In fact, I think the balance point of the gun is another factor that's far more important than the comp setup...get that right and the comp has less to do.Wait you mean to say that buying the latest greatest new comp won't make me a better shooter? (yes this is sarcasm) I shoot a 357 sig GLOCK with a small comp that i know is not the greatest, but I am sure so far it is not what is holding me back You're right. It's the Glock AND shooting 357 sig that's holding you back! And I thought it was a lack of practice[emoji15] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I've tried many different comps over the years, and in the end decided it really didn't matter unless they were absolutely terrible. I can make more difference in how the gun reacts with grip pressure and springs than by changing comps. I had this exact discussion with Matt McLearn about two weeks ago...he said the same thing. Pick one, get used to it, tune your load for it, and then go practice. A super, super flat gun won't help you shoot any better, and can make shot calling/dot tracking harder. In fact, I think the balance point of the gun is another factor that's far more important than the comp setup...get that right and the comp has less to do.Wait you mean to say that buying the latest greatest new comp won't make me a better shooter? (yes this is sarcasm) I shoot a 357 sig GLOCK with a small comp that i know is not the greatest, but I am sure so far it is not what is holding me back You're right. It's the Glock AND shooting 357 sig that's holding you back! And I thought it was a lack of practice[emoji15] Sounds like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Jared, does the amount of gas available effect how your comp should be designed? I looked at your thread but didn't see it... altho I may have missed it since flow dynamics is way above my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I'm interested in Amish_rabbi's question as well! If I have a reasonably accurate load I like (bullet, powder I've been able to get that will last a bit, load say 170 PF), is there a way for a layman to design a comp (port area, # ports) that is optimized for that load, the gas created? Normally it seems that folks have optimized for their comp, but given that it's easier for me to have a comp. built vs access to a diversity of powders to test, having a comp done for your load doesn't seem unreasonable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jid2 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It does change things. It's hard to get perfect load data to feed into the simulation. I used some data that is a good reference for 9 major but doesn't look to differentiate between a specific powder. What is most important is the general layout and basic port sizing and that doesn't need a specific powder to get right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 cool, I was just looking at your comp an wondering since I know you did it for 9mm major, but then thought about if it would be as good with the extra gas you can get out of .38 super or .357sig loads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_telecom Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Eric, not knowing much about comps. Will yours work on a threaded barrel? And where can I get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Hello: Is your barrel a bull barrel that is threaded or a bushing type barrel that has been threaded. I may be able to help if yours is a bushing barrel as others have asked about a comp for that barrel type. PM me for more details. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I've tried many different comps over the years, and in the end decided it really didn't matter unless they were absolutely terrible. I can make more difference in how the gun reacts with grip pressure and springs than by changing comps. I had this exact discussion with Matt McLearn about two weeks ago...he said the same thing. Pick one, get used to it, tune your load for it, and then go practice. A super, super flat gun won't help you shoot any better, and can make shot calling/dot tracking harder. In fact, I think the balance point of the gun is another factor that's far more important than the comp setup...get that right and the comp has less to do. I'm a big believe in pick one and get used it it. Although I don't think balance point makes a difference. I shoot all my practices with 10 round mags. If I borrow a big stick in free America, I don't notice a difference in how the gun tracks. Grip is the really the determining factor in how my gun shoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss+P Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 So shot my first match in open. It was too much fun. I shouldn't be allowed to have that much fun with a gun. I borrowed a buddies gun and it had the sti trubor t2 barrel and comp. I am now building an open gun in 9mm. I know it is subjective but is there anything wrong with the t2 comp from sti. What is your favorite. I have looked at the bedell, cheely, sti, even thought about have my smith make one on a trubor blank. Thoughts. Aircooled6racer could you PM me some info on yours. What are the differences between comps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I have a comp on the way from Eric for my new build. I am building a 9 mm Major pistol. I prefer the 9 mm over the 38 SC. Switched to 9 mm about 4 or 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss+P Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Why do you prefer 9mm jaxshooter. I am building a 9 for ammo purposes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parallax3D Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Very subjective. Like asking what is the best pool cue? Good luck. Marty A-7424 Best pool cue? Why, a George Balabushka, of course! Or maybe a Mottey, or a Szamboti, or Palmer, or Paradise, or...oh, never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I originally did it so I didn't have to pick up brass. With the new powders on the market it is much easier to load major power factor loads. My 9 mm shoots flatter than the super and is softer on my hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I originally did it so I didn't have to pick up brass. With the new powders on the market it is much easier to load major power factor loads. My 9 mm shoots flatter than the super and is softer on my hands. So Jax, how do the pistols compare? are they both full sized? holes? which comps? Inquiring minds want to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 This thread has me wondering why Ti comps are short and steel comps are long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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