ChrisG164 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I shoot local competitions in a basically slightly modified gun style. My curiosity is how do you shoot USPSA/IDPA/IPSC and justify spending all day setting up, taping targets, sitting around...for a whole 4 minutes of shooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 That's why I shoot 3 gun. Get at least 12 minutes of shooting at a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technetium-99m Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I shoot local competitions in a basically slightly modified gun style. My curiosity is how do you shoot USPSA/IDPA/IPSC and justify spending all day setting up, taping targets, sitting around...for a whole 4 minutes of shooting? Its a day spent with friends having fun. I don't see it as wasting a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksim Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Its like 5 hours of foreplay for 2 mins of ..... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG164 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Its like 5 hours of foreplay for 2 mins of ..... ? Hahahahaha btw: Awesome avatar Edited October 25, 2012 by ChrisG164 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 How much time do golfers spend actually swinging the club in 18 holes?? How much time do skeet/trap/sporting clay shooters actually spend shooting versus waiting on the rest of the squad to shoot and riding between stations?? Swimmers will sit at a meet all day for a few minutes worth of laps in a pool... I've spent almost an entire day hiking through the woods, hungry and thirsty, for only several minutes on an amazing rock climbing route. I've even sat at RC airplane competitions all day, for only a few minutes worth of flight time. My point is (and all the examples were from personal experience) that most sports in which individuals compete require a lot of "waiting" time. You sit and think and plan for your 15 seconds of fame, and when your name is called, you give the best performance you can. I guess at the root of it, we enjoy the thrill of flying through a stage, the lingering adrenaline afterwards, the competition, and the comrodary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I shoot local competitions in a basically slightly modified gun style. My curiosity is how do you shoot USPSA/IDPA/IPSC and justify spending all day setting up, taping targets, sitting around...for a whole 4 minutes of shooting? You remember how Econ 101 was all about what the rational person would do? You're about two minutes over your estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG164 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 How much time do golfers spend actually swinging the club in 18 holes?? How much time do skeet/trap/sporting clay shooters actually spend shooting versus waiting on the rest of the squad to shoot and riding between stations?? Swimmers will sit at a meet all day for a few minutes worth of laps in a pool... I've spent almost an entire day hiking through the woods, hungry and thirsty, for only several minutes on an amazing rock climbing route. I've even sat at RC airplane competitions all day, for only a few minutes worth of flight time. My point is (and all the examples were from personal experience) that most sports in which individuals compete require a lot of "waiting" time. You sit and think and plan for your 15 seconds of fame, and when your name is called, you give the best performance you can. I guess at the root of it, we enjoy the thrill of flying through a stage, the lingering adrenaline afterwards, the competition, and the comrodary. skeet/trap/sporting clay shooting I've done and got a lot more action than USPSA competitors do. Swimming I would never be into... RC Planes are not my thing and if in fact the action time was equivalent to USPSA I don't know I'd compete. I'd rather just go fly for fun with a friend or two, which you can't do at a setup stage for USPSA. Hiking is hiking no matter whether you're climbing a rock or hiking through the woods to get there. Look, I'm not trying to make an argument for each point you make. I was just curious how you guys could shine some light on what seems to be a lot of waiting for a little amount of shooting, you know what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksim Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I view local matches and even bigger ones... as not just about shooting. It is part shooting, part watching others shoot (sporting event), part camaraderie and meeting up with friends (hanging out and or networking) So it is 5 hours of an event.... not just 2 mins of shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeislarge Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I'm a D class shooter, so I'm not in it to win it. I do however, enjoy watching those who are at the top of the game compete. I'm a shooter and this is my primary sport right now. It's no different than me going to the Players Championship every year to watch Tiger Woods and the other top players in the world compete. I could ask why anyone would spend hours watching a tennis tournament. When I see a GM flying through a COF, it's thrilling to me, and then after his stage I get to participate in the commentary, and perhaps glean a few pointers from the guy. Not many prima-donnas in this sport. I love to shoot, hang out with other like-minded individuals, and yes, it's also a great training exercise for defense. If it bugs you, maybe you should just do something else. The guy at the match who's constantly complaining about the pace of the event typically annoys everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I was just curious how you guys could shine some light on what seems to be a lot of waiting for a little amount of shooting, you know what I mean? If you have a better way to do it, please share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 stop using matches every month or every weekend as practice. Shoot just one all classifier match, ever, just enough to get classified, then practice on your own either through dry fire or actual live fire practice at a range. Then just sign up for a few majors per year. I think Ben said it took him just 5,000 rounds to make GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Its like 5 hours of foreplay for 2 mins of ..... ? Excellent explaintion :roflol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I was just curious how you guys could shine some light on what seems to be a lot of waiting for a little amount of shooting, you know what I mean? Because we like it? I'd rather do this 4 minutes of shooting over a 6 hr time span, than shoot for 1 hr straight, in a box range, by myself and head home to have the wife *itch at me to do whatever it is she thinks needs done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Santiago Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Look at the time and preparation to run a top fuel dragster.... for a 4 second run. I bet that's a great 4 seconds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I shoot local competitions in a basically slightly modified gun style. My curiosity is how do you shoot USPSA/IDPA/IPSC and justify spending all day setting up, taping targets, sitting around...for a whole 4 minutes of shooting? That's a reasonable question, and I sorta thought the same thing when I first started shooting competitively last year. But think of when you practice by yourself? i don't get to set up nearly the same kind of cool targets, and it still takes me a couple hrs to burn through 150-200 rds (including set-up, tear down, taping, reloading magazines, etc...), and I don't get the benefit of watching other more experienced shooters and learning from them, and I don't get the kind of focus and intensity that only comes from competition, and I just don't have quite as much fun. I will say that I'm starting to prefer the uspsa competitions in my area because they typically get through 5-6 stages in 5 hours or less (including all setup and teardown. Our monthly practice matches use alot of steel to minimize reset time, and we'll often run the same 15-20 shot stage 2 or 3 times each. That helps get more shooting and more practice and refinement. But hey, everyone's different. Some guys spend days or weeks wooing a woman and don't even get lucky! At least I KNOW I'm going to get to shoot the match if I follow a few basic rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I traveled round trip to Vegas, 3400 miles, worked 3 days as an RO, spent 10 days away from home, shacked up with a FWG (fat white guy) and shot for less than 5 minutes. And didn't do that very well. And had a ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckaroo45 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I agree with everything above including being a D shooter. In ANYTHING you do it's about the journey, not the destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Look at the time and preparation to run a top fuel dragster.... for a 4 second run. I bet that's a great 4 seconds! Yeah... But have you seen the amount of marketing plastered on the side of dragster and its trailer? Even the army has its own drag racing team: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 My curiosity is how do you shoot USPSA/IDPA/IPSC and justify spending all day setting up, taping targets, sitting around...for a whole 4 minutes of shooting? Its easy when you compare it to hunting big game or upland birds... I typically measure it in miles walked (or feet in elevation gained) per shot fired. And it's NOT a high shoot factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG164 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 Sorry I didn't get back sooner.. but you all have explanations that made me TOTALLY rethink my questioning. Thank you for taking the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG164 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 ...and admin..what's with the beef?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I shoot local competitions in a basically slightly modified gun style. My curiosity is how do you shoot USPSA/IDPA/IPSC and justify spending all day setting up, taping targets, sitting around...for a whole 4 minutes of shooting? Maybe it is one of those "if we have to explain it, you just wouldn't understand" items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG164 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 I shoot local competitions in a basically slightly modified gun style. My curiosity is how do you shoot USPSA/IDPA/IPSC and justify spending all day setting up, taping targets, sitting around...for a whole 4 minutes of shooting? Maybe it is one of those "if we have to explain it, you just wouldn't understand" items. I actually agree. Since I haven't actually been to a USPSA mandated match then you're probably right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 ...and admin..what's with the beef?? What beef? Did you find a way to get a free lunch? Please share that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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