Wilsoncreek Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Making the transition from TacOptic to Open in MultiGun. I have always used a full Kydex holster for my handgun for security but in moving to Open I'm wondering what my options are. I have the CR holster I use for USPSA but am uncomfortable with the multiple axis movement often required in multigun. What are you Open guys using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I've been going back on forth and tried different things. Two that stuck out for me were the DAA racemaster and COM Kydex holster. With the Racemaster, once its locked ITS LOCKED. . However now that I have played with it quite a bit it does have some cons. First it doesn't cover the gun at outside the trigger guard. Second, its hard to re-holster quickly, not alot of matches will let you reload hot but there are a few, also once the inside locking block gets dirty its a real PITA to re-holster. Also doesn't fit on a Safari ELS belt system.The COM holster, is a full kydex designed for a Open gun with traditional upright C-More. Cons: No active locking device, it does use a knob to allow you to turn up the friction of the holster to the open gun, but the gun can still be Jar'd like any other Kydex non-locking holster. You'll need to take a Heat gun to mold it to your gun. The things I like about it is, it covers the full barrel up to the C-More and the whole frame up to the pistol handle. also works with a Safari ELS So what I have come up with is.. I'll be using them both. If I find that I'm on a stage where I do alot of movement from prone running sprints and such, I'll stick with the COM. If the stage is more traditional USPSA and with a pistol start, with no shotgun. I'll use the Racemaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kampr Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 DAA RaceMaster. It's not coming out until you unlock it, which is easy to do on the draw. Unlike Doc, I find it fairly easy to re-holster and lock(which I hate), it's still a one handed affair. As for mounting to the ELS system, I just trimmed an old Tek-Lok and made a backing plate to attach to the RM, then bolted the ELS fork to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 DAA RaceMaster. It's not coming out until you unlock it, which is easy to do on the draw. Unlike Doc, I find it fairly easy to re-holster and lock(which I hate), it's still a one handed affair. As for mounting to the ELS system, I just trimmed an old Tek-Lok and made a backing plate to attach to the RM, then bolted the ELS fork to it. Could you take pic of that for me? I would like to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegot38 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I use the Racemaster for 3 gun. Locked means locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I was in the same delima, I have 2 Ghost Holsters and a LimCat. I sold two CR Speeds, after I got my gun knocked out at two major matches while taping targets. The Ghost is very secure when locked as is the LimCat, however the gun moves around a bit. So I bought a Double Alpha race master. If the front of the Trigger guard of the STI is not modified the gun does not move at all in the holster and it is not going to come out when locked. The Race Master draws as nice as a Ghost or Limcat, lots of adjustments. With practice its an easy reholster without looking, and easy to lock. On the draw with the holster locked it is easy to hit the release just like the LimCat or Ghost. The only thing I don't like about it is the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kampr Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Here you go, Doc. Crappy pics, but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsoncreek Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Thanx for the info, gents. Looks like the Racemaster needs to be first on the list for research. Going to take a look at the COM, too. Kampr, could you post another pick of that modified TecLok? I think I'll probably want to construct something similar. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncopenshooter Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Center of Mass or modifying a 6" Bladetech is what worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THM7 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) Alot of the guys around here use the ghost with a rubber band on the lock lever. Very secure...If the match is not too pistol intensive I will use my G34 with a Delta Point and Kydex. Edited March 13, 2012 by THM7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyNo! Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 A Safariland 013 locks securely. -Cam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baa Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Manny Bragg has created a new race holster which he is selling via the Universal Shooting Academy. It's an awesome holster and when the lock is engaged, the pistol will not come out under any circumstances. It would work well for 3 Gun as the locking lever can be set fully on, or in a "half cock" position which retains the gun fully but allows you to disengage the lock as you draw. The holster is built like a tank. I will post a picture when I am not at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I use a really crappy looking Kydex holster I molded for myself when shooting IMGA w/o power factor. I use an SJC Glock for that. For USPSA with PF I use a 2011 out of a Safariland 013. I like the CR Speed for a lot of things but definitely not three gun. I've seen too many guns pop out of locked CR Speed holsters. At the FNH match I watched a shooter fall over and knock his gun out of the holster. Fortunately it landed in his hand and he wasn't DQ'd. I told him after about the CR releasing guns even though locked. He proceeded to show me how that wouldn't happen smacking the butt of the gun until it fell out and landed on the ground. It didn't take long. I'm pretty sure Clint Upchurch was shooting a CR Speed at the last USPSA MG Nats when his gun hit the dirt as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstick0000 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I have used the ghost and guga ribas in the past. Then saw an SL3 holster at a match hannu was wearing. Awesome holster, rock solid. Problem is I don't think you can buy them anywhere in the country. I had Hannu pick me one up when he went to Finland. Best holster I have ever used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyzx9 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I use a SpeedSec holster for limited and open in both USPSA matches and 3-gun. I get to use one holster for everything I shoot with multiple guns. The thing I like best about this rig is that the gun is locked and not going any place until you actually draw. I unlock the holster on the draw and have had a few occasions where re-holstering hot was required and worked out fine. I find this setup to be solid and also doesn't break the bank. I'm a big fan of keeping gear simple and not changing things anymore than absolutely necessary. Here's a quick picture of this holster at work in a 3-gun match. As you can see I'm a finely tuned athletic machine. lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMC Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I used a heavily modified Blade-Tec when I shot open. It was snug enough to keep the gun in place including the Ironman with all its prone positions (gun unloaded of course), running and reholstering. Mine didn't have a dropped and offset bracket, it was high and tight on my belt keeping it out of the way of shotgun stick and such. On the draw it's only a few tenths slower than a full race rig. I wouldn't use a skeletonized race holster for 3-gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busyhawk Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I am a very firm believer in the COM for my Trubor with an Camron side mount for my CMore. Very secure and protects the pistol for 3 gun! I have yet to hear of any DQs using the COM holster on an open pistol. Hell, Jerry M uses one too. Now does any one know what holster Jerry (tattoo man) was wearing at the SMM3G last week? He was DQd because of his pistol falling out! I really don't believe the speed of the holster in Multigun is really that important... Just my .02 anyhow, Sincerely, Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyzx9 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I am a very firm believer in the COM for my Trubor with an Camron side mount for my CMore. Very secure and protects the pistol for 3 gun! I have yet to hear of any DQs using the COM holster on an open pistol. Hell, Jerry M uses one too. Now does any one know what holster Jerry (tattoo man) was wearing at the SMM3G last week? He was DQd because of his pistol falling out! I really don't believe the speed of the holster in Multigun is really that important... Just my .02 anyhow, Sincerely, Scott I will definitely agree with the notion that a speed holster is not vital to 3-gun performance. My use of the SpeedSec is due to the fact that I use the same holster for everything, not necessarily because I think it's extra fast but becuase it fits all of my competetive pistols. I also believe that this is holster is secure otherwise I would not be using it. I am a big fan of similar gear as often as it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I am a very firm believer in the COM for my Trubor with an Camron side mount for my CMore. Very secure and protects the pistol for 3 gun! I have yet to hear of any DQs using the COM holster on an open pistol. Hell, Jerry M uses one too. Now does any one know what holster Jerry (tattoo man) was wearing at the SMM3G last week? He was DQd because of his pistol falling out! I really don't believe the speed of the holster in Multigun is really that important... Just my .02 anyhow, Sincerely, Scott There was one Person who did DQ with a COM holster on stage 2 this year, as he lifted his rifle the buttstock caught the pistol and ripped it right out. Also, Jerry M. Is no longer running a COM holster, unless its a new style of COM without its badging, its still a full kydex holster. But form fitted for his pistol. but with that being said I've seen one and heard of another CR speed holster dropping a pistol during the match when they were "locked" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOvalBruin Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I am a very firm believer in the COM for my Trubor with an Camron side mount for my CMore. Very secure and protects the pistol for 3 gun! I have yet to hear of any DQs using the COM holster on an open pistol. Hell, Jerry M uses one too. I saw one open shooter at SMM3G get DQed after having his loaded pistol fall out of his COM holster while running, my understanding was that he tended to run the retention level pretty light. I usually use a bladetech DOH for my STI in tactical since it’s so easy to move around on the belt. I would much rather use my racemaster but the belt mounting takes too long to adjust/remove/install. Don’t like the ELS system because I don’t always want the pistol in the same place. If there’s no crouching/kneeling/prone I mount the holster forward closer to where I like it for USPSA, for prone I mount it further back behind the centerline. I should see if there’s a good way to mount the racemaster to a teclok mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug H. Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I'm a fan of the COM holster, if a stage has any movement I just tighten down the adjustment screw till I can barely tug it out and I'm good to go. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nheiny13 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I use a Blade-Tech WRS holster with a retention hood. My open gun for Multigun is an M&P with a Deltapoint milled into the slide. The hood is tall enough that when it rotates forward it clears the scope easily. With a hood on the holster I can do somersaults, cartwheels, backflips and trip and tumble over props and there is NO chance of the gun coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Does anyone know where to get the COM holster other than direct from COM. They have a pretty good backlog now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerSniper158 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Does anyone happen to have a picture of the COM either with or without a gun in it? It doesn`t show up on their website. Thanks, CS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xdmeister Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Racemaster locks super secure and is easy to unlock when necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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