latech15 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I have a cheapo Lyman and it is very finicky. The first few measurements are always off and it eats batteries. I have gotten to the point where I really don't trust it and recent chrono results point to a problem either in the powder throw or in the scale. I want to upgrade and want some input from the experts here first. How many of you guys use a powder trickler for load development with pistol loads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-the new guy Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 How about this one: Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Gempro 500 http://www.myweigh.com/gempro.html I bought this for the 0.05gr precision and was not disappointed. It does eat batteries so I just use the AC adapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 How many of you guys use a powder trickler for load development with pistol loads? Not me. And I doubt not many others do. This game doesn't require that kind of accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Diss Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 How many of you guys use a powder trickler for load development with pistol loads? I do. When I'm making ammo to test, I check the powder charge of each round. If needed, I adjust it. I use a digital scale too and sometimes it's frustrating. I also have the small Dillon bar scale and I take a small .17 pellet and use it as a standard. I let the digital scale warm-up, and go back and forth between the two with the test pellet until I'm convinced it's working correctly. I find the bar scale to be more finicky than the digital scale. I've thought about upgrading, and this one looks interesting. http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/sid=71468/pid=38348/Product/SARTORIUS_SCALE_110V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Gempro 500 gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Any recommendations for where to buy a Gempro scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Pretty sure I got mine from Digital Scales AZ: http://www.digitalscalesaz.com/MyWeigh-Gem-Pro-500-Digital-Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markcic Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 It all depends on how much you want to spend This scale is $1500 but it is accurate to 0.000154323584 grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 It all depends on how much you want to spend This scale is $1500 but it is accurate to 0.000154323584 grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadapple Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 It may not be the most accurate, but I use an RCBS Chargemaster. I trickle the rifle charges, but not the pistol. It is a nice scale, easy to use, and easy to calibrate (it come with two brass weights). It costs ~ $330.00, but I got mine on sale for something around $299. I am seriously considering one of Brian's new scales, that way I can leave the RCBS on the Forster side of the bench and use the new scale between my progressive presses. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic_jon Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I bought my scale from http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/ but, if I had to buy another one I would get it from Brian to support him hosting this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) It may not be the most accurate, but I use an RCBS Chargemaster. I trickle the rifle charges, but not the pistol. It is a nice scale, easy to use, and easy to calibrate (it come with two brass weights). It costs ~ $330.00, but I got mine on sale for something around $299. I am seriously considering one of Brian's new scales, that way I can leave the RCBS on the Forster side of the bench and use the new scale between my progressive presses. Good Luck! I use the above as well, seems to be accurate enough (5 years now), the check weights are a must... Ps. I bought mine used on E-bay for $105 http://cgi.ebay.com/RCBS-750-Grain-Electronic-Rangemaster-Scale-/130476251951?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e60fd9b2f Edited May 10, 2011 by GrumpyOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind bat Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Why no love for the Dillon electronic scale? Funny story... I have a Pact scale that I want to replace eventually because it always wonders off zero. I asked a sales guy at Cabellas which scale I should get to replace the Pact and he said, "The Dillon electronic scale is the only one worth owning and I've tried them all. Too bad we don't Dillon stuff here." I was practically in shock at his answer. With all the shady practices of big box stores like Best Buy I couldn't fathom untainted honesty coming from a sales clerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Why no love for the Dillon electronic scale? Funny story... I have a Pact scale that I want to replace eventually because it always wonders off zero. I asked a sales guy at Cabellas which scale I should get to replace the Pact and he said, "The Dillon electronic scale is the only one worth owning and I've tried them all. Too bad we don't Dillon stuff here." I was practically in shock at his answer. With all the shady practices of big box stores like Best Buy I couldn't fathom untainted honesty coming from a sales clerk. The Dillon electronic scale was on the shelf at Cabela's the last time I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind bat Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Interesting. I usually only get to Cabellas once or twice a year on the way to in-laws' house. That store seemed to have every brand or reloading gear (Hornady, Lyman, RCBS, etc.) except Dillon. I wonder when they started stocking the the Blue Kool Aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake32 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 i use a beam type scale made by ohaus. i dont trust electronic scales ( i use to work on scales a little ). i always use a powder trickler on all load development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyPotty Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Gempro 500 http://www.myweigh.com/gempro.html I bought this for the 0.05gr precision and was not disappointed. It does eat batteries so I just use the AC adapter. +1 I got mine off ebay for $55.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBB Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I use the Dillon and am happy with it. It does require a few minutes to warm up but most electronic things do. I simply turn it on while I am getting other stuff ready. Check weights are a good idea with any scale I think. I don't know about the battery as I keep it plugged in. I've had it for a long time, perhaps more than 10 years. It is actually my second one. The first one stopped working at some point and they sent me a new one for free. It was after a move. It did not appear physically damaged but it's not hard to imagine something happened to it in the moving van. I was honest about what had probably happened. They sent a new one anyway. It's hard to complain about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98sr20ve Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I have a cheapo Lyman and it is very finicky. The first few measurements are always off and it eats batteries. I have gotten to the point where I really don't trust it and recent chrono results point to a problem either in the powder throw or in the scale. I want to upgrade and want some input from the experts here first. How many of you guys use a powder trickler for load development with pistol loads? I get single digit ES's with just letting the press do what it's supposed to do. Your never going to trickle a bunch of pistol ammo so why bother doing it at all. The best most reliable scale is a good beam. Dillon makes a great one. I don't know what press you are using but I only test loads loaded with a full shell plate after I have already loaded a couple rounds on the press. That's when it's most consistent. I have found ammo loaded by volume for pistol to be more consistent then my ammo loaded by my attempts at making every load the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregJ Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Another vote for the RCBS 1500 scale. This is my first digital scale, so I dont have anything to compare it to, but the two beam scales I've had. This thing is quick to measure, and so far has been very accurate. I feel it has been one of the upgrades to my loading bench that has not only be worth every penny, but has really sped up the reloading process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latech15 Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 My process after changing the powder throw is this: 1. Turn the knob on the powder bar. 2. Throw then charges and throw them directly back in the powder canister 3. Weigh the 11th one. 4. If it is right move on to the next step. If not, go back to step 1. 5. Throw ten charges and weigh them all together. If the ten charges add up to 10x what I am after, redo step 5. 6. If I get the correct powder throw on step 4 and 5 (both times) then I go ahead with making the bullets. My issue is not once I get to this point. The issue is that the first 10 measurements I take on the scale are all over the place. They are never right. I can't tell you how many times I have weighted a charge and gone through the steps above and then once I empty the cup on the scale, the scale reads -.7 or -1.0 and I have to calibrate it again and do all those steps again. I just want one that I can turn on, calibrate, and take an accurate measurement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Either you are loading with a draft, making some sort of horrible error (not having balance leveled properly or having it move while handling), or you have a bad balance that should be shipped back for repair. If you don't want a Sartorius, you can look into "My-weigh Gempro500" jewelry scale Electronic Scale Features: 3 Calibration Modes (Pre-Calibration, Sensitivity Calibration, Linear Calibration) Retractable Wind Shield Cover Leveling System 6 Weighing Modes ASTM Class F2 Calibration Weight (included) Runs on 4 AAA Batteries or AC Adapter (included) Stainless Steel Weighing Tray and Expansion Scoop/Bowl (included) Full Tare Capabilities Programmable Auto Off (1-9 Minutes) Bright Backlight Adjustable Dual Division Gem Scale Protective Case (included) Full Lifetime/30 Year International Warranty $152.90 + $9.95 S/H at http://balance.balances.com/ Edited May 12, 2011 by noylj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Trampas Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Well, I have the dillon electronic scale and very happy with it, it passed the drop test, let me explain, last year when I did a reloading session and when done I was cleaning up and putting stuff away, I have the scale on a stand beside the loading table, well I unplugged the scale and picked it up to put away and the cord get caught on the cornor of the stand and pulled it out of my hands, the scale was chest high to me and fell to the floor, it fell apart, oh boy, was I cussing up a storm for being so careless, picked it up off the floor and put it back together thinking here comes a new scale, well, I was quite surprised, it still worked and talk about a happy man, I did buy another electronic scale, dillon of course, just did this in case it happens again, which I hope it doesn't, but things happen. So when I put it away I called dillon up and told them that their scale passed the drop test to a concrete floor, the man I talked to said maybe I should go buy a lotto ticket, LOL Dillon all the way All for now JD Trampas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Well, I have the dillon electronic scale and very happy with it, it passed the drop test, let me explain, last year when I did a reloading session and when done I was cleaning up and putting stuff away, I have the scale on a stand beside the loading table, well I unplugged the scale and picked it up to put away and the cord get caught on the cornor of the stand and pulled it out of my hands, the scale was chest high to me and fell to the floor, it fell apart, oh boy, was I cussing up a storm for being so careless, picked it up off the floor and put it back together thinking here comes a new scale, well, I was quite surprised, it still worked and talk about a happy man, I did buy another electronic scale, dillon of course, just did this in case it happens again, which I hope it doesn't, but things happen. So when I put it away I called dillon up and told them that their scale passed the drop test to a concrete floor, the man I talked to said maybe I should go buy a lotto ticket, LOL Dillon all the way All for now JD Trampas 1. Have you checked the scale with a set of good check weights? Just because it "works" doesn't mean it works. Know what I mean? 2. I'm pretty sure Dillon doesn't actually manufacture the scale. Just like RCBS doesn't manufacture theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now