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Totally agree with everything you said except for this... The 650 is a very capable machine, all my bulk precision rifle is loaded on a my 650.

I go with the lowest PF developed with bullet/powder combo shot in my guns giving the best accuracy (Bench tested at 25 Yards). Generally 135PF for 124g and 143-145 PF with 147g.

That's good to know. I got mine Dec of 2012 and definitely had issues right off the bat. The orofiles between the OEM and Skips were obvious.

As Dillon stated "Push down on the edge of the shellplate at the bullet seating station. If it feels springy, then the lock ring needs to be tighter" and disassemble and clean the the case feed plunger and spring. Lube lightly as required, when assembling do not over tighten the top two Allen head screws. If your still having issues it's just your probably moving too fast, get one of Skips case feed cams.... http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=162927 I did all the above to refresh my press last week and prior to processing 4000 rounds of .223. It didn't happen to me once without reason, all being the case rim was dinged up.

Dillons blue press, lists it as "Loading Rate: 800-1000" for the XL650

So to clarify, when Dillon establishes it's loading rate. The assumption is the press is set to load and replenishing supplies such as extra loaded primer tubes and additional bullets and cases are at the ready from the start of the hour?

Aside from using the weight. I just had my 650 primer assembly stripped off the press last night. I was converting it from .223 processing to 9mm. Found there was a lot of dirt, the the primer slide channel and on the slide itself. I cleaned both really well with brake cleaner and reinstalled first spraying with dry silicone lube. Really noticed the slide movement had improved when actuating it with my finger.

Question here guys, an argument erupted on another board in regards to the published “Load Rate” given in rounds per hour by Dillon for loading on the XL650. It was stated by one individual that the load rates published are not obtainable, for certain reasons you will derive given below: What it’s your definition of “Load Rate”? The “Load Rate” is determined from the completion of the first of round to the last in one hour on the machine. All other preloading (press and component set-up) and Post-loading (case gauging, OAL check, clean-up) are not part of the “Load Rate” measuring interval. 2. The timing of the “Load Rate” hour begins from the time you start retrieving all components from normal place of storage, loading primer tubes from scratch, pouring powder in the hopper and setting up to verify the drop weight, lubing brass (if you do) and putting cases in the case feeder (in you have one). Once you commence actual loading, the only rounds counted as part of the “Load Rate” are those completed which in the process must have had powder weights re-verified at intervals. All rounds counted as included in the “Load Rate” are individually case gauged, checked for OAL boxed and lastly cleaning the bench top off afterwards. Yeah, I understand some of the above may sound absolutely moronic. However, I wanted to get an idea of the number of people here that actually think one way or the other.

That will do it... I also amended my post a little. there is no BLUE tip on the 650 but a brass one... check it anyways.

Make sure magazine tube is clean, and the brass tip isn't deformed or has burrs, if it is replace it. When you put the magazine tube in the shroud only slightly snug it down. I recommend weighting down the top of the feed rod with a 200-230g bullet hot glued to the top. Lastly ensure the primer anvil assembly is torque down tight. I've done these and have 10's of thousands primer free problems.

I can do a clean conversion pulling all the dies of the toolhead from processing .223 to loading 9mm in about 30 minutes, cleaning and lubing as I go. Setting up the other way takes me a little longer but wit the use of locking die rings and a few other tricks not an issue... I set mine up to process enough .223 brass for the year, takes me about of month casually working on it. Then I convert to 9mm for the rest of the year and load my .223 / .308 on a XL650.

If you load a single round in the magazine and fire it, does the bolt lock back? If not your definitely too light.

David Tubb a 11-12 time National HP shooting champion, loads his ammo on Dillon 550s

My standard Bear Creek Moly 135 RN with WST @ 1.150 load that I developed for my Spartan 9mm works equally well in my FNS 9LS, averages 1000 fps / 135 PF.

This... Dillon case lube. lay your brass on on a cardboard pizza box lid, lightly mist and rolll then go for it.

THIS! In addition regardless of how new your press is... get a small inexpensive grease gun and lube your lever arm fittings. Ensuring they are sufficently lubed will increase leverage and sensitivty when operating the lever.

I have a clean cardboard box that was previously used for packing and transporting cat food cans as a case. I lay one layer pistol brass on it and lightly spray with Hornady One Shot lube, just a light misting is all it takes, shake around to roll the brass once or twice and dump in the hopper.

If the spring you are talking about is the index return spring... a little tip. Take the primer seating anvil assembly off first using a 5/8 inch wrench, at that point you have plenty of room to work with. Attach the spring to the post on the index ring first then stretch and hook to the post on the opposite side. Reinstall the primer seating anvil assembly and your back in business. I broke my second spring in 6 years last week and it took me literally 5 minutes to change.

I cannot possbly see how this is happening. All I have ever loaded on my XL650 for the past 6 years is 9mm/380acp and never had an issue. Can i ask how much brass you are loading oat a time in the hopper?

My opinion, I wouldn't bother with a pistol only case feeder for a 550. I would keep it as is and get the bullet feeder for the 650. But at 10k a year, I wouldn't even bother with a bullet feeder for the 650... the only one worth the money is a Mr. Bullet feeder and that's half way there to a second press.

My bad posted before completely reading your post... have you detailed stripped the slide? Cleaned the striker channel and plunger?

The +200s are said to work with adjustable sights, the +300s with fixed. I didn't care for the Dawsons and opted for the Springer Precision plus .250 Glock base pads instead. I liked that they had more color options and went with blue ones for my USPSA G34.

Is anyone shooting a PPQ, reloading for it? Do you have problems with very short throated chambers? I have a buddy that I'm trying to help out and his will not accept a Bear Creek 135g RN load with WST that I have used in several guns at 1.150 OAL. You have to go down to 1.060 to get it to chamber.

That was the problem with the Gen 1 mags is they were inconsistent. The feature for them to be retained in the gun if still loaded was requested by the Austrian military. Really? Was that to keep somebody from accidentally dropping a loaded mag? I would think the mags would have to have at least a few rounds in the magazine in order to be retained. I can't imagine the polymer shape changing enough to stay in the well when loaded. Yes, according to the book Glock: The Rise of America's Gunby Paul M. Barrett