Chuck Anderson

DQ’s are punitive. Action shooting is based on a premise of shooter responsibility. You are responsible for yourself and your gun. Fell and broke the 180 because poor prop maintenance? Should have been paying attention. Shotgun dump barrel fell over because it wasn’t staked properly? Should have been paying attention. You should be operating at whatever level you can control your body and equipment 100% of the time. If you fail, you failed. There should be consequences for that. Kurt, you talked about some of the safety reasons for a DQ. What about the other ones? Cheating and Unsportsmanlike Conduct? Should the competitor get to keep the stages he didn’t alter the PS time on? Should his scores remain in the match after he got caught adjusting the scope dials on another competitors rifle? What about the screaming match with the RO on the last stage over his 7th immaculate double of the match. Theres wide latitude in 3 Gun matches for DQs based on whatever the MD wants. Like DQs getting all the scores tossed? It’s easy to pick an established rule set that says that. IMGA, USPSA, UML, whatever. If you want to include scores after a DQ just write the rules for your specific match to say that. I’m betting most people won’t care one way or the other and will attend the match if they were going to. I probably won’t though. I’m a bit rigid when it comes to safety. We have a local Practical Rifle match. It’s one of the first sports I shot. I won’t go any more because of the MD’s lax approach to safety. He thinks he’s a range nazi, and on certain things he is. The last match I shot they had a rule about never pointing the muzzle over the berm. Cool, but he also let a guy stay in the match after he pulled his rifle out and pointed it downrange while people were still resetting. Twice, in a row, after being told not to. The MD let him stay in and shoot the next stage. From the bed of a moving truck. No thanks, I get shot at enough at work. Don’t need it on my days off as well.

That’s great until Daniel Horner wins the match after DQing on the last stage. I’ve seen more than one match where he has been far enough ahead he could have given a stage away.

So if shooter A DQ’s on stage 1, and shooter B DQ’s on stage 1, both on the same loose stair, they have the same potential for score. Unless shooter A started the match on stage 1 and shooter B started on stage 2.

I wouldn’t worry too much about it. There is always talk. Nothing ever actually changes though.

I was really surprised at CO. Took a couple years off. When I left it was just barely getting off the ground and, well kind of lame. The majority of the competition was in Open and Production locally with all the sharks in those two divisions. Came back and hardly anyone was shooting Production, which is good, because I kind of suck now. Seems like CO and PCC have a big following. PCC didn't surprise me but CO did. Lots of speed coming out of that division.

Check to make sure the ejector is fully intact. The spring steel should be tight at the rivet and have a springy bend in it when pushed towards the receiver. Also make sure the tip of the grooved plate the ejector rides in is still intact. They occasionally break. It should lock up with the barrel. If the ejector needs replaced it’s a definite gun smith job. Rivet needs to be drilled out and replaced and usually the receiver needs to be refinished.

I’ve been running the Deltapoint triangle on a Saiga for...not really sure, but several years. Guessing 10ish. Works great. For my gun the top of the triangle zeroed at 50 worked out to the bottom being almost perfect at 100. I’m playing around with the Holosun now but I’m less impressed. I’m sure it’s something I’m doing wrong but the QD mount loosens up every couple hundred rounds. There will be some loctite in its future.

Shot this way a few times. Usually in tactical training. Basically what to do if you get knocked on your ass. I remember taking a class from Jim Cirillo on it back in the 90’s. He taught using a version of the Crimson Trace laser. Made it really obvious all the many, many times he swept himself.

Podium finishes yes, but if memory serves the importer thing was fixed very close, if not before, Ben started shooting them. When Eric was crushing it with them and shot several matches in the US. Ben definitely had a positive influence, but is definitely not the sole defining factor. Just like Eric isn’t either. Of course I have a Tanfo sitting in the safe I had J.J. work over for me. Still don’t shoot it as well as Glock or even my old SP-01’s. So I might be biased.

The number of Tanfoglios sold to US Production shooters is a drop in the bucket. The difference in sales likely has less to do with Ben and more to do with actually having an importer who imports them. It wasn’t long ago when they carried an above retail price because they were a pain to come by. At least now you can find them for sale.

A few years...ok maybe more than a few, I went through an FBI firearms instructor course. They drew out this long equation on the board with depth, length of boat, current speed etc. The punchline was it was to determine the number of Smith 10mm’s they were issued needed to properly anchor the boat.

Last time I saw a Smith 4506, which isn't that long ago. Almost 42 oz. I also routinely see 1911's. Which although standard is only 39oz, is close enough that I think the point is made. Triggerguard holsters, not that often, but I've seen people carry in Yaqui Slide style holsters which is pretty close as well. And a lot of those retention methods found in race holsters have also migrated to more secure duty holsters. My 3 Gun holster is a Safariland 6378. Guess what holster I'm wearing right now with a Glock 19 in it at work.

Not sure about the Division, but I’m pretty sure putting a Cmore on your 1100 puts you in the 1990’s.

What’s your setup? Some scopes are designed for a specific zero distance. Some will depend on what your range is capable of zeroing at. 50 is the minimum I use. With the LR Ammo I use its very close at 200 and also matches the BDC on my scope. If your range can go 200 and you are accurate enough that works better. I see a lot of people who try to zero further than they are capable of shooting a tight group. At 200 you also need to pay attention to what the wind is doing. It’s not a huge difference but it’s there.

I took a couple years off. I was really surprised at the local decline of Production. Seems like most swapped to CO or PCC. Limited was pretty light a few years ago but solid again. Stuff changes. Glock succeeded for a long time because it was cheap and reliable. CZ had issues before Angus started fixing them and EAA was worlds worst importer. Most of that has sorted itself out.

Not quite. Memory serves the first two Production Nationals were won by Ernie Langdon with a Beretta and Todd Jarrett with a Para LDA. I think. Then Sevigny/Vogel won for a while.

Comparing LE guns on a qual course to competition guns is apples and oranges. I’ve seen way more sketchy gunsmithing with match guns. Just an extra safety element. Some matches that do empty gun starts also don’t consider it a DQ if the gun drops even during the course of fire.

I went with Dawson on mine.

It might have changed but every official interpretation issued by DNROI used to be voted on by the BOD. So it’s really not DNROI doing this on his own, it’s just his name on it. That only applies to the ones published online, not the stuff published in Front Sight in response to reader questions.

RO’d for the first time in a good long while yesterday. First time with PCC’s. And we had one of those fun U shaped stages where you start up front and move back, then forward down a narrow path. It was tricky catching the last PCC shots. Catching all of them would not have been possible. When I RO I have the timer in my peripheral vision, roughly inline with where the gun is so I can see both. I’m watching to make sure the numbers are changing on the last couple shots. Soon as the shooter is done I look at the number, then ULSC while the timer is facing the scorekeeper. After Range is clear I check it again and call the time off. If something is off from what I remember it’s time to review and take a peek. Number of shots fired doesn’t matter to me.

Not sure what matches you attend. I've seen top shooters DQd from just about every type of match I've gone to. I've also seen people, top, bottom or in the middle get a pass on stuff that should have been a DQ because the RO missed it, wasn't in the right position, blinked at the wrong time or just wasn't sure. I have yet in all that time seen a match fail to DQ someone because of who they are.

I've always disagreed with that sentiment. It's not difficult to make an accuracy challenging Time Plus match. If that's the goal. Distance, small steel, hard cover, no shoots. It's not difficult to test accuracy. In fact the most challenging shots I've made in competition have been at Time Plus matches. But I do see a lot of just hoser time plus matches as well. Just depends on what the match staff decide they want the flavor of their match to be.

There are worse people to be related to. I mean you two knuckleheads. It would suck to be related to me.

Well you are kind of related to Eric aren't you? I mean Miller is a fairly common name, but you guys have that same weird look about you. Isn't one Miller the same as all the rest?

So...what actually happened anyway? The whole vague I said this person said something about some one else smacks of High School BS. We're all big boys and girls. I've never had any trouble fighting my own battles and I'm sure if someone was really offended they could feel free to let Eric know. He's not hard to get a hold of. I'm more confused than I was before I started.