caspian guy

There are several cartridges that will badly beat the Grendels ballistics now. 6mmAR, 6mm Turbo, 6mmBanshee, 6.5Banshee, 6mmHagar, 5.56x42DMR. the .243 95gr Sierra MK with a BC of .480-.510 makes it easy to smoke the Grendel. 2965fps from a 22" Banshee. and a .224 75gr Amax at 3150fps from the 5.56x42. Doesn't look like any of those go major?

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EGW makes one of these as well http://egw-guns.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=239.

I would go with a fairly lightweight 18" barrel as it is a nice compromise between the easy handling characteristics of the 16 and the extra velocity of the 20". I would favor a 1-8 or 1-9 twist barrel with either a mid-length or rifle length gas system. If you intend to use it for 3 gun I second (maybe third or fourth by now :-) ) the choice of the Meopta Kdot for your optic. By all means get more than one upper as finances allow the AR is truly the swiss army rifle.

I used to run this in my 9x25 it was the flattest thing I have ever used. It created so much gas for the comp that the dot dipped down slightly. That along with a mind numbing concussion. You might be able to get enough of it to go major in a 38 sup, provided it is a 5" gun. My 9x25 load was like 15.5-16ish gr with a 124 gr bullet to go old major I believe I used to shoot for 180 pf. Of course the 9x25 had much more case volume. So work up slowly is good advice. Good luck and let us know how it works.

Lighten the heck out of it... But do all the lightening cuts on the inside. That what the heck feeling when someone picks up a gun that looks like an edge but feels like a 5" light gun is priceless...

Ok. How about a 6.5 Grendel? You can get loaded ammunition from Alexander arms with a 120 gr Nosler ballistic tip that looks to run 2500-2600 fps from a 20 in barrel (I can't find consistent numbers on the web but that was the range I saw). I believe that Alexander arms also sells a load with a 130 gr Swift Scirocco (Although I don't see it on their web site). There are a large number of quality 6.5 bullets available if you want to hand load this. With good shot placement 6.5 bullets kill deer nicely. Check this link out: http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread....ighlight=nosler

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Okay, I don't know the answer to this, but I wonder if that's an automatic "stop" and reshoot for the competitor? A mild explosion at your feet ought to qualify as outside interference even if it's your own ammo. Not only that, but from a safety aspect it'd be nice to make sure he didn't pick up any shrapnel. If I recall correctly the RO stopped him thinking maybe an AD had occurred. When he figured out what had happened the guy got a re-shoot. Was this at South River a couple of years ago? Yep.

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Okay, I don't know the answer to this, but I wonder if that's an automatic "stop" and reshoot for the competitor? A mild explosion at your feet ought to qualify as outside interference even if it's your own ammo. Not only that, but from a safety aspect it'd be nice to make sure he didn't pick up any shrapnel. If I recall correctly the RO stopped him thinking maybe an AD had occurred. When he figured out what had happened the guy got a re-shoot.

At a large match as I waited on the squad in front of mine to finish shooting. I saw a revolver shooter drop a partial moon clip of .45s as he made his reload... Federal primers + gravel on the floor of the berm + the weight of partial moon clip of .45s = detonation... Not sure what you could do about that either unless you wanted to do IDPA style reloads. No matter how careful we are sometimes shit just happens.

Finding the dot is mostly a muscle memory thing. The only thing I know that will make that happen is Dry Fire. The way I learned was during the draw bring the gun up high enough so that I could see through the scope while the gun was close to my face. Then push it out . I found that if I tried to acquire the dot at arms length I did the C-More wave which requires the *!*!*!*Open gun !@!#!@#! practice that was recommended above . One other tip I can offer is that if you lose the dot (like on a transfer to weak hand ) you can frequently find it again by putting the top of the C-More adjustment knob in the bottom of the lens. That usually gets the scope aligned enough to see the dot. I usually seem to put a little bend in my arms when I shoot open, it seems to damp out some of the vibration. Beware switching back to Limited. For the first several draws I usually find myself looking about 3" over the sights at where my C-More would be. As said before, welcome to the Dark Side. Peter Adams FY-39604

I use and like the Meopta Kdot. Having said that the little Weaver is probably the best scope for the money (it is what I have on my backup). I had the bushnell for a while and the one I had was not a true 1 power scope. In addition I found that the cross hairs were too thick for my use on the little self-resetting mini poppers that the local guys like to use. I had the IOR 1.1-4. It had a nice reticle (didn't like the horseshoe above the aiming point though), and was bright as hell. It was built like a tank and the adjustments were rock solid. On the down side it was built like a tank and so was heavy. In addition the one I had suffered from insufficient eye relief to let me mount it far enough forward to take advantage of the 1.1X As to other scopes you might think about. Kahles Helia C 1.1-4 is a very nice piece of glass. CDNN has them on sale right now. It weighs about 14.5 oz. The NightForce 1-4 is also very nice (though about $1200 street price). It weighs about 17oz.

If you look in the forums over at ar15.com there has been a lot of talk about this. I believe that some of the folks over there have taken AK 74 barrels and with some machine work fitted a headspace extension, and a custom gas block to create a 5.45 AR. Not sure what they are using for a bolt probably a 5.56 with the face opened up or maybe a 6.8 SPC bolt? Alexander Arms used to make a barrel in a caliber they called .21 Genghis that would use 5.45 ammo. I don't believe that they catalog it anymore but if you could find one that might be an option.

... Let there be light: and there was light. Gotta love that dot.

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The very first Millet scopes that were released at this years SHOT had a few problems but Millet replaced each and every one of these without a hassle. Are they of the quality of the others mentioned above? Heck no! Will they perform well enough for you? All I can say is a my friend Henry Avant has a waiting list for them and it is mostly word of mouth from other shooters. I also know Henry just got some in last week and you can contact him at 478-986-4156. Since your scope is going out of country, risking a couple of hundred dollars on a Millet DMS might be wise since by the posts I have read on the Sniper's Hide forum, customs can get pretty silly about what they consider a night vision device. From what I have read, getting a Nightforce scope into Canada is a roll of the dice. Some here have talked about lens quality and how bright the reticle is. Millet lens are good but not the best but plenty good enogh for paper and steel. The Millet reticle from the scopes I have looked at is plenty bright and crisp. I have found that some of the less expensive scopes, Millet included, tend to have less expensive electronics that might cause the batteries to need to be replaced more frequently but price is not always the factor here since I have some of the high end German scopes that burn batteries like a kid on Christmas day. The bottom line here is that I am not going to give up my Spector DR to install a Millet but if I were just getting started, I would go with the Millet and give it a try. If you decide to trade up later or do not like it, you have a great varmit scope with just a touch over $200.00 in it. Whether you go with this scope or another, from my experience having a true one power on the bottom end of the variable power makes a very large difference. You will shoot far more up close targets at these rifle matches than at long range and having the multiple targets you see at 5-10 yards. The reason I tossed the Trijcon was the headache I had trying to focus on the closer targets. Charles Bond The Millett I tried was fresh out of the box just mounted. Does that mean it didn't have a near bad battery to start with? nope can't say cause I didn't test the battery... Ditto to the dot not being visibly red/illuminated in medium to bright light conditions, it could have been a bad electronics module or just a dim diode unit... What I do know is that compared side by side with the Meopta it was not as clear nor was the dot as bright. Having said that I would have to agree with Charles that it looked to be a perfectly adequate scope for the sort of three gun that many of us do where all the targets are 250 yards or closer. I will be curious to see, as we have more experience with them, if the Millett will hold its zero. I have had that problem with inexpensive scopes before (as well as with scopes that cost twice what the Millett does).

I had a chance to shoot both the 1-4 Millett and the 1-4 Meopta side by side. The only 2 problems I saw with the Millett vs the meopta were that the glass did not seem to be as clear in the Millett. In addition the illuminated dot in the Millett was not sufficiently bright under normal daylight to allow it's use as a close range red dot. On the other hand the Millett is about half the cost of the Meopta so.... As far as the Nightforce scopes go I think some of them may be export restricted items and are only exportable to certain countries.

Bump for status.

I use the Atlanta Arms 147 gr 9mm for my production ammo, great stuff very consistent and soft. I believe they also load the ammo for Team Glock and The Army Action Pistol Team.

I still don't see the need for boundary lines. If as a course designer I don't want you to do something I will set up the COF to the best of my ability to prevent it. If you find something I didn't see, good for you this is a freestyle sport (with the exception of standard exercises and classifiers). Uspsa competition has always been a test not only of your shooting abilities but your ability to analyze the stage to solve the problem in the best way possible. As the shooter the intent of the course of fire is not your problem... only to solve it in the best way possible within boundaries provided by the stage briefing and the rules. I am afraid that the introduction of boundary lines will be used as a bandaid to fix problems that would have been better addressed by proper stage design. Just my .02. Peter Adams

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One of my co-workers who is a water skier got me started... It seems great for the wrists and forearms. Like shred i use the thumb flick start.

I have been using a Gold Hunter setup for 3Gun for about 4 years. Once I had it worked over by Jerry Harp at Rockin H Tactical I haven't had any problems with it. It is very soft shooting and I love only having to feed the shells into the loading port regardless of whether it is empty or not. Peter Adams FY-39604