Rocket35 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Just wondering what the Benos experts' thoughts were on this new addition to the STI stable. Do you think it is priced a bit high or in the ballpark. Just wondering as I am considering purchasing one. Rifle is offered in a competition and/or tactical set up. http://www.stiguns.com/guns/SportingRifle/SportingRifle.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 If they used a quality barrel like a Wilson then the price is spot on, but I'm not paying $1800 for a rifle with a Green Mountain barrel (they don't have the greatest reputation) with no accuracy guarantee. YMMV Jay, have you looked into Compass Lake? They get my vote 100% for best bang for the buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I didn't see a reference to Green Mountain barrel, but, then middle age may have take over for a moment or two. Personally I think it's a bit high. Jay, talk with Jim next weekend about an AR, you're sqadded with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I don't know if they have it listed anymore in the specs, but it was. I suggested they drop the Green Mountain BBL part and just put "quality match grade bbl". I spoke with them at SHOT and told them my thoughts on the bbl they chose. With so many available, I hate they chose the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I don't know if they have it listed anymore in the specs, but it was. I suggested they drop the Green Mountain BBL part and just put "quality match grade bbl".I spoke with them at SHOT and told them my thoughts on the bbl they chose. With so many available, I hate they chose the GM. Whew.....I thought I was losing it! I didn't see it in the specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Realize, too, that $1800 is MSRP.... You should be able to get it cheaper than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well it comes with the JP trigger which is nice but says a 16" barrel ? Why 16" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralChang Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 They missed the mark on this one. It's priced way too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I smell Contingency all over 3 gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket35 Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 I didn't see a reference to Green Mountain barrel, but, then middle age may have take over for a moment or two. Personally I think it's a bit high. Jay, talk with Jim next weekend about an AR, you're sqadded with him. I pretty much shoot with Jim every weekend. But was interested in this STI. But, seeing as it has a sub-quality barrel, I will be rethinking my decision. Thanks to all for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The one I saw at SHOT had an 18" bbl, or at least Chris said it was 18", I didn't measure it. For $1800 you can build a custom AR-15 that shoots .5MOA with a guarantee to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run n Gun Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 For that kind of money I'd throw another $200 at it and buy a JP-15. Not only would I KNOW what I was getting I wouldn't be stuck with a 16" barrel. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) For a competition shooter a mid length is not the best choice. If the barrels are Green Mountain there are better ones out there for sure. I would have hoped STI would have done something a little more innovative than what I see here. Especially for a (real) custom gun price. The hand guard looks kewl though......... Edited January 23, 2009 by Merlin Orr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 It depends on the weight of it & has little or sub-preformance looking comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebg3 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) Looks like a $1000 to $1100 AR-15 to me. $1800 is too much...however, it seems to be kind of hard to find the parts to build a rifle right now. Maybe a msrp of $1800 is not too bad. Edited January 23, 2009 by ebg3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Don't get me wrong, I am not saying this gun isn't going to shoot, I just like to bet on a horse that is known to win and Green Mountain ain't it. Shooter's Connection has a whole bunch of these ordered and I'm sure Chuck and Mike will give us the skinny. I am a big STI fan, and I'm sure they'll back up their product, I just like to have something in writing. Someone once said "only accurate rifles are interesting". This one has yet to interest me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzygä Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well it comes with the JP trigger which is nice but says a 16" barrel ? Why 16" For a competition shooter a mid length is not the best choice. If the barrels are Green Mountain there are better ones out there for sure. I would have hoped STI would have done something a little more innovative than what I see here. Especially for a (real) custom gun price. The hand guard looks kewl though......... It depends on the weight of it & has little or sub-preformance looking comp. I would choose 18" quality barrel, rifle-lengt adjustable gas system and different comp(depends what class you are going to shoot). I hope they have different choices for a customer or they change their AR-15 rifle little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) Agree. For that money & STI's experience with our sport, I would expect something closer to what JP Rifles turns out. Short of a JP race rifle, I think STI would have done a lot better with an 18" barrel from a better known, accuracy-oriented barrel like a Lothar-Walther, Krieger or if on the cheap, a Criterion by Kreiger. Since they went with a 16" barrel, at least they had the wisdom to go with a mid-length gas system. Looks like a $1000 to $1100 AR-15 to me. $1800 is too much...however, it seems to be kind of hard to find the parts to build a rifle right now. Maybe a msrp of $1800 is not too bad. Edited January 23, 2009 by Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) I applaud them for expanding their horizons, but I just ain't seeing $1800 worth of AR in that pic. I'm guessing that " what really sets this rifle apart from the rest of the pack is the custom STI Valkyrie hand guard and gas block." is where the extra $500 or so comes from. Edited January 23, 2009 by ken hebert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The hand guard looks kewl though......... +1 And there's holsters available for it! It took a whole for me to see where they displayed the tactical image, when yuo click on that link.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I am totally excited to see STI broadening their product line, but for $1800 bones I would expect a more options or some higher end components. That being said if they offer their contingency program in 3 gun, I will take a receiver to build on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 You going to buy an $1800 receiver to build on? They told me at SHOT they would only be available as a package and with extremely limited options at this time. What you see is what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 that valkyrie gas block IS pretty innovative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaG Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Is it me or does that look like a Nordic comp? DaG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gundry Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Yes, it is a Nordic comp - says it right on the webpage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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