blownhemi Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) Just an opinion. Look at the guns used by the Top 16 in production and Ben's is the glaring exception. That's an interesting observation Shawn. You're right, there probably is no one who can shoot a Beretta better, but the question is, can Ben shoot better using a different gun? I reckon he probably could. It's not like he's sponsored by Beretta or owes them anything (could be wrong though). Edited September 17, 2009 by blownhemi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knight Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) I have seen many other shooters swap between guns over and over and it doesn't make them better or worse. All guns can be shot well by someone that knows how to work the fundementals. Ben placed 3rd overall in last year's nationals using his Beretta against several different guns. he did that because he knows how to work the fundementals and he is very very good at what he does. This year it just wasn't his year. Sticking with a gun that works for you is what is important. Not whether you are sponsored by them. I have switched guns in the past because they didn't work for me. I settled on a XD and it worked for me very well for quite a while. I have since given that gun to my girl because she shoot it better than any other gun she has tried. Will it work for her forever? Maybe maybe not but she will stick with it until she wants to try something new. Revolver seems to work very well for me now. Go figure. Edited September 17, 2009 by Shawn Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 You won't like it, but I'll say it anyway. Get rid of the Beretta and get a better gun. I can't seem to find a better one. I tend not to defer to internet experts on the subject. I don't think you are seeing the big picture here. I had a better match than last year. I made no serious mistakes and shot pretty good points. How you place is just how you place. It takes many years to get really good at this game, and I have only been at uspsa for 4 years and one month now. You have to deal with the ups and downs of this game. Every match is different. You do the best you can and learn all you can. It is that simple. Every so often someone in the peanut gallery reminds me of why I am one of the very few top shooters that post regularly on the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hefta Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Keep on posting Ben, you are a credit to our sport, I am glad to know you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Every so often someone in the peanut gallery reminds me of why I am one of the very few top shooters that post regularly on the boards. Great match Ben.. I love your dedication to improving and appreciate you posting your progress.. really drives home the amount of work and dedication it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerBU Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 really drives home the amount of work and dedication it takes. + 1,000,000 Thanks for all you do here Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00bullitt Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Hey Ben.....what kind of malfunctions is the pizza cutter experiencing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Great journey, Ben! Keep pounding the pavement!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin40 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) Every so often someone in the peanut gallery reminds me of why I am one of the very few top shooters that post regularly on the boards. This forum should be reminded of this more often.......... Great job Ben, you had some great competition. I'm amazed sometimes of your attitude and ability you look at your performance in an objective way. Your already preparing for next yr and accepted that you did better this yr performance wise even though you finished 10th(which is still awesome). I know you motivate alot of shooters who keep up with your website and post. Keep up hard work. You could easily put all your post together and have a "How to become an Elite Uspsa Shooter" or "What is takes to make it to the Top of Uspsa" book published. You wouldn't even have to really add that much too............ Great job Bud Flyin Edited September 17, 2009 by Flyin40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupie Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Good Shooting Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Capizzo Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 (edited) I had a better match than last year.[/b] I made no serious mistakes and shot pretty good points. How you place is just how you place. This is a great insight. So many of us get caught up in "where did I place" that we forget about "how did I perform". To often we think they are the same thing. I shoot with BJ Norris occasionally, and I've often wondered how he handles it mentally (especially with Steel Challenge), but I think this sums it up. Edited September 18, 2009 by Al Capizzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 Hey Ben.....what kind of malfunctions is the pizza cutter experiencing? Extraction I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Ben, are you shooting 9mm brass that has been fired through a 9mm Major open gun? AFAIK, IIRC, you were reloading on a square deal B, right? Who knows? That's why I like the Evolution Gun Works/Lee Undersize die. I had a stainless extractor's hook shear off in a 96, once. I went through Dave Olhasso and bought two new black/brunitoned extractors instead. Supposedly, the stainless looking extractors are a MIM part...according to internet rumors. Anywhooo....just throwing some ideas out there Ben. Maybe it helps... Maybe it doesn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Ben, are you shooting 9mm brass that has been fired through a 9mm Major open gun?AFAIK, IIRC, you were reloading on a square deal B, right? Who knows? That's why I like the Evolution Gun Works/Lee Undersize die. I had a stainless extractor's hook shear off in a 96, once. I went through Dave Olhasso and bought two new black/brunitoned extractors instead. Supposedly, the stainless looking extractors are a MIM part...according to internet rumors. Anywhooo....just throwing some ideas out there Ben. Maybe it helps... Maybe it doesn't... I am shooting factory ammo (atlanta arms) in matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin40 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Ben, are you shooting 9mm brass that has been fired through a 9mm Major open gun?AFAIK, IIRC, you were reloading on a square deal B, right? Who knows? That's why I like the Evolution Gun Works/Lee Undersize die. I had a stainless extractor's hook shear off in a 96, once. I went through Dave Olhasso and bought two new black/brunitoned extractors instead. Supposedly, the stainless looking extractors are a MIM part...according to internet rumors. Anywhooo....just throwing some ideas out there Ben. Maybe it helps... Maybe it doesn't... I wish the Lee undersized die would work in a Square B....... Flyin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) A-ha... okay, thanks Ben . I would tell you to check other things on your Beretta but I would feel a little bit out of my lane....like telling Lance Armstrong what gears he should go with on his bike when all I have is a Huffy. Dumb question though, for you Ben.... do you ever run this Atlanta Arms ammo through a case gauge? EDITED: replaced "gas" with "case". Oopss.. Edited September 19, 2009 by Chills1994 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 A-ha... okay, thanks Ben .I would tell you to check other things on your Beretta but I would feel a little bit out of my lane....like telling Lance Armstrong what gears he should go with on his bike when all I have is a Huffy. Dumb question though, for you Ben.... do you ever run this Atlanta Arms ammo through a gas gauge? Too save you all the trouble of worrying about it... something is wrong with that specific gun. The setup (ammo+gun+mag) has run perfectly for years, this year I have had 3 jams. I am certain it is the gun. Some part has worn out or something. I will get the gun fixed. Stuff wears out, it happens. I know you have a hard on for Berettas, and that is cool. One of my 7 just isnt working right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) Me? Have a hard on for Beretta's ? Well, maybe if my hand didn't get sliced open every time I tried to shoot a Glock, I would have a hard on for Glocks. FWIW, I will be shooting a single stack 1911 in .45 at our steel match tomorrow. Most likely a stainless STI Trojan. Knock on wood... I hope it runs. Who knows? If I can get some hiccups worked out, I might just stick with single stack for the next 6 to 9 months. Edited September 19, 2009 by Chills1994 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Great job Ben. Great job on having a better match this year than you did last year! That's really all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 You won't like it, but I'll say it anyway. Get rid of the Beretta and get a better gun. I can't seem to find a better one. I tend not to defer to internet experts on the subject. I don't think you are seeing the big picture here. I had a better match than last year. I made no serious mistakes and shot pretty good points. How you place is just how you place. It takes many years to get really good at this game, and I have only been at uspsa for 4 years and one month now. You have to deal with the ups and downs of this game. Every match is different. You do the best you can and learn all you can. It is that simple. Every so often someone in the peanut gallery reminds me of why I am one of the very few top shooters that post regularly on the boards. I think maybe a better way to ask this question would have been over the last 4 years, what other type of firearms have you tried? what where your like and dislikes compared to what you haven choosen to stick with? I think the Beretta is a great gun, points great for me and I have no problem with the larger grip frame. I used to shoot an Elite 2 in IDPA, wish I still had that gun. Keep posting, your dedication, practice and enthusiasm for sport is awesome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmitz Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Keep posting, your dedication, practice and enthusiasm for sport is awesome!! I second this conclusion, Ben you're really an inspiration for many! Thanks! Thanks for posting, keep on doing so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00bullitt Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Ben....I hope you continue to rock the Beretta.....which I'm sure-since you have 7 of them-you have no intention of changing. I always think its cool to make such huge accomplishments like you have with a somewhat non standard or unpopular type gun for the sport. Berettas rock! Berettas are extremely reliable blasters when run with Beretta mags. I'm sure the problem you are experincing will be an easy fix. Ben.....good job at Nationals in accomlishing the goals you set out to do. Look forward to your break down and diagnosis for your coming year training plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waxman Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Great finish Ben!, like many have said, you are a inspiration. I know I have read your posts. and then immediately gunned up, and headed to the range. Not many that were not there realize how impressive a couple of D's at that match is. I am usually a fairly clean shooter at biggger matches and I ended up with 4 Mikes and a NS. I look forward to your future postings. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 I have been practicing my new grip. The harder I grip, the faster the sight settles. Then I can shoot faster. Video here: One other thing, I didn’t mean to imply I am considering not posting here any longer. I am here to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 I have been practicing my new grip. The harder I grip, the faster the sight settles. which hand, both or one more than the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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