TruStreet Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I shot Area 6 this last weekend; on one of the stages (a stand & shoot) the sun was directly behind me & washed my dot out. TNA Manny The Big Pimp @ the Cat House! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 some use a glare shield. I just try to keep fresh batteries on hand and pay attention to the overall brightness. Try to catch it before the stage, normally an 8 min at full on does not wash out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruStreet Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 (edited) some use a glare shield. I just try to keep fresh batteries on hand and pay attention to the overall brightness. Try to catch it before the stage, normally an 8 min at full on does not wash out. I changed the batteries the night before! It was on full bright. Edited April 22, 2008 by TruStreet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin40 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I shot Area 6 this last weekend; on one of the stages (a stand & shoot) the sun was directly behind me & washed my dot out.TNA Manny The Big Pimp @ the Cat House! The only time I have the dot wash out is when the lens is dirty. The lens looks smokey and then add some direct sunlight and I can't see anything. At a major match I will take a small bottle of lens cleaner and a Q-tip and clean the lens after every stage. I have barrel ports so my lens gets smoky quicker than a gun with just a comp. I just went too pearl vision and bought a lens cleaner and refill for about $7.00. Its a nice small bottle and when I eventually run out I'll probably just use windex. If my lens is clean I can shoot with the sun in front or behind me and I'm fine. If its dirty it adds alot of time to pick up the dot. Flyin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Generally smaller dots are not as bright as the larger ones. While I have experienced problems with 4 & 6 minute dots, I have found that a good 8 minute dot with new batteries can cover about any situation too. However, not all diodes are created equal, I have bright and dim diodes of each size and getting a new one is no gurantee that it will be a bright one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 9*25 good call, check your dot out in all sorts of conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Depends, Manny... Glare shield, fresh batteries, and at least an 8 MOA dot all go a long way toward fixing wash out... However, on stages 7 and 9 at A6, if shot in morning light... those poppers rejected a 12 MOA dot with fresh battery turned up all the way... Actually, rejected two of them.... How do you know when to shoot? When the dot disappears, whack the trigger!!! FWIW, Bob, in the bright Texas sun, an 8 MOA dot will wash out... It won't seem like it, so much, but you start having phantom misses, and shots not ending up where you called them, and it turns out its because your eye just isn't seeing enough dot against the target to see it move rapidly away. Thus my move to the 12... and so far, I'm really liking it, even on long range stuff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I use a Grams Docter sight in 7 moa. It does not wash out. But, yup, make sure the lens is clean! I use isopropyl as opposed to glass cleaner. I had an optical tech mention that the ammonia in some cleaners can attack optical coatings (like UV coating on glasses) so the iso is fine. I carry around some of those alcohol swabs that they use when you get injections. They are handy to have in the gun bag and they don't leak! Later, Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry cazes Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) My wife and I use Aimpoints on all of our open guns. No washout even at the dimmest setting regardless of the position and intensity of the sun. Edited April 23, 2008 by larry cazes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 aimpoints are good for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruStreet Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Thanks guys, Looks like I had it all covered except for the glare shield. After I posted this question I called C-More they seem to think that my intensity switch might be going south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Gotta clean the projector part too, right? (not just the glass lenses that you look through) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Timely post. Just got back from Tuesday Night Steel and the sun was just right (wrong?) on one stage to make my 6 MOA dot go hide and seek. I've got a 12MOA sitting next to me now. If you listen closely you can just barely hear it.... "Use me........ use me". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruStreet Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 (edited) W E L L , I went to our weekly indoor match last night & half way through a stage my dot disappeared. I changed the battery again & no dot, Its going to C-MORE today. Edited April 24, 2008 by TruStreet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 It sounds like you need a new dot module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I agree.... time for a new module, Manny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Well blow me down a rabbit chute and call me whiskers..........Learned a bunch from this thread. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruStreet Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 Thanks guys I went ahead & shipped to C-MORE for a complete look over, I'll use my backup gun this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruStreet Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 Just got a call from C-More they replaced the switch and are shipping it back today. NOW thats what I call customer service & I'm not even a famous GM Manny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 How do I deal with Dot Wash Out? Point Shoot!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGentry Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 How do I deal with Dot Wash Out? Point Shoot!!! hahahaha - you guys actually use that dot thing ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Depends, Manny... Glare shield, fresh batteries, and at least an 8 MOA dot all go a long way toward fixing wash out... However, on stages 7 and 9 at A6, if shot in morning light... those poppers rejected a 12 MOA dot with fresh battery turned up all the way... Actually, rejected two of them.... How do you know when to shoot? When the dot disappears, whack the trigger!!! FWIW, Bob, in the bright Texas sun, an 8 MOA dot will wash out... It won't seem like it, so much, but you start having phantom misses, and shots not ending up where you called them, and it turns out its because your eye just isn't seeing enough dot against the target to see it move rapidly away. Thus my move to the 12... and so far, I'm really liking it, even on long range stuff.... Got me a 12 yesterday..........Wow!! Looks like I will have to run it very low indoors compared to my 8. Can't wait to give it a run outdoors!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 i have been fortunate never to have suffered from total dot loss due to sun wash. it has gotten VERY dim before though. Harmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcambi Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 i have been fortunate never to have suffered from total dot loss due to sun wash.it has gotten VERY dim before though. Harmon it's all due to global warming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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