Tokarev Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 He does not need to send them back to ACT. Nighthawk provides his guns and mags. I don't think you would want any cracked mags. I find it odd that a $2,500 custom pistol comes with a $6.00 magazine! I was just going through my supply of Novak's and found a cracked feed lip on one. These were given to me by PSI after I sent them a number of cracked mags. Supposedly this was a heat treat problem with early mags and the one that just cracked is from a "good" batch. I still think the $9.00 generic "Power Mag" from CDNN is the best bet for a decent mag on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) The "Factory Shooter" for Nighthawk is a friend of mine. He showed me a whole sack full of cracked ACT mags. If the metal is of proper composition and heat treated correctly they will not crack.Even though I don't care for Bill Wilson I like his mags. If I had a bag full of busted gear that might be exchanged I would sent them back. The folks who made them need to see the problem and I think a sponser needs to have his money taken care of better than that.----------Larry Edited January 25, 2007 by lkytx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) He does not need to send them back to ACT. Nighthawk provides his guns and mags. I don't think you would want any cracked mags. No, I wouldn't want TO USE any cracked mags, but I would ship them to PSI and have them exchanged for new ones. It would also be good feedback for them to correct the problem, like Larry indicated. I'm sure there are many other mags out there that may be better than these, but so far after trying Wilsons and CMC's, the ACT's worked the best in my pair of 1911's. Maybe it is that my pistols are as bad as the mags and they get along well! Cheers! Edited January 25, 2007 by Nemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpty1 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 One thing we just discovered is the front sight dovetail cut for the Spartan is different than the standard STI front sight dovetail on other STI guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysued Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 One thing we just discovered is the front sight dovetail cut for the Spartan is different than the standard STI front sight dovetail on other STI guns. Is it the Novak Front Sight Cut?? Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 He does not need to send them back to ACT. Nighthawk provides his guns and mags. I don't think you would want any cracked mags. No, I wouldn't want TO USE any cracked mags, but I would ship them to PSI and have them exchanged for new ones. It would also be good feedback for them to correct the problem, like Larry indicated. PSI is aware of the cracking problem because I've spoken with them about it and it has been reported on a number of the 1911 boards. Jay says it's only happening to a small percentage of the mags he's shiped. He says that it seems most likely caused by the disconnector rail contacting the feed lips. On the mag I just found with the crack, there's no sign of finish wear on the back of the mag or on the outside of the feed lips so I don't know what's up. Heat treatment was supposedly the problem but Jay told me that all the cracked mags he's sent back to Italy have been in spec. I agree that you should send the mags back for replacement but where does it end? I guess you can feel confident in knowing that you'll get fresh new mags a couple times a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpty1 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Someone may want to confirm, but from what I can tell it's the Kimber cut, .330 x .075 x 60º. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) I suspect it is the same cut as the RIA Tactical. If so it is the same as Kimber. One thing I have found interesting is all of this mag discussion. I am yet to find a quality mag that does not work in my 1911s. I have used Metal Form, Wilson, CMC, Mec-Gar and generic GI mags with equal success. Tokarev, did you ever check the Spartan barrel lock up? Edited January 26, 2007 by Joe D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCK Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Frustrating myself... Im a little over half way to getting one of these but why cant them make them in .40? I reload LOTS of .40 since my wife and I both shoot it. I have .45 dies and all for my 550 but I just ordered a case feeder for it in .40. Im lazy when it comes to reloading and dont really want to switch back and forth from .40 to .45. I dont plan on shooting SS on a full time basis so paying $600.00 for the Spartan versus $900.00 for a Trojan is VERY appealing. Oh what to do... I know this should be a no brainer and I would imagine that a Spartan in .45 would be the no nonsense way to go since the 1911 platform was designed for the .45 and guns in this caliber seem to run 99.9% with little or no tweaking. Do the lead SWC rounds feed well in this gun or are you all using round nose FMJ, lead cost is another one of my considerations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) Joe D, The sparten lock up is at .046. Slide lock pin is snug against the bottom lugs & quartent of the barrel is fine. Cannot get any better... Edited January 26, 2007 by Flexmoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) ...I am just trying to find out about the fit. Edited January 26, 2007 by Flexmoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 snip... quartent of the barrel is fine. snip Benny, What does that mean? At the muzzle end? Please educate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I've went ahead and cleaned out all the off topic posts. Talk...about the gun...is OK. Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) I've went ahead acn cleaned out all the off topic posts. Talk...about the gun...is OK. Admin. Ahh, back to gun talk!!! Edited January 26, 2007 by Singlestack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 That is the barrel travel from lock up to sitting on the frame rails & bottom lug cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCK Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I got weak today and ordered a Spartan Brazo's says that more wont be in till late Febuary-mid March . I guess that will give me time to aquire some gear for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanexp Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 An STI 1911 SS for ~ $600 is exciting news. I have a question about the fit of the Spartan MSH. It has been reported that the MSH is a little long for the Spartan frame. It is the MSH that's too long for the frame, right? It isn't that the frame is shorter than normal for a 1911, correct? Sorry if this has already been addressed here or elsewhere, or if an error in grip frame length is just not possible. Thanks. Oh yes, can't fail to comment what a great site this is or how interestig the info discussed on this thread and others is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysued Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 An STI 1911 SS for ~ $600 is exciting news. I have a question about the fit of the Spartan MSH. It has been reported that the MSH is a little long for the Spartan frame. It is the MSH that's too long for the frame, right? It isn't that the frame is shorter than normal for a 1911, correct? Sorry if this has already been addressed here or elsewhere, or if an error in grip frame length is just not possible.Thanks. Oh yes, can't fail to comment what a great site this is or how interestig the info discussed on this thread and others is. AFAIK the MSH is too long, I know others have replaced the MSH for Magwells and I haven't heard of any complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 There's a post on one of the 1911 boards concerning this. The poster said that when he installed an S&A mag well he had about a 1/16" gap between the frame and the forks on the mag well. I can't find the post now but I'll post a link if I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Wonder Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) Ooppss........Senior moment.......... Edited January 28, 2007 by Singlestack Wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 God forbid!!! You buy a 1911 and have to work on it!!!! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 That is correct, there is a small gap with the S&A magwell. There's a post on one of the 1911 boards concerning this. The poster said that when he installed an S&A mag well he had about a 1/16" gap between the frame and the forks on the mag well. I can't find the post now but I'll post a link if I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 see my earlier post!!! S&A mag wells most likely will need to be " Fitted" On any 1911's Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I have one on my RIA Tactical. The gap is very small. No worse than on some other 1911s. Would take about 10 minutes to fix. Guess I am just too lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 You and me both!! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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