gary meyer Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 has anybody used the new bullet feeder in the front sight mag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robopup Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I have one, but I have not got it fully set up. It took him over a month and couple of phone calls to get the wrong unit delivered. He sent me the right unit after I sent he back the wrong one. Neither unit came with instructions on setup, so I'm having to guess if I got it right. He did not cash my check until he sent me the first unit. I will be giving it a workout later this summer when I start shooting lim-10 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey QuicksDraw! Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Robopup, How about an update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Love to hear one as well. Price ? 550 / 650 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I am a bit lost here: What new bullet feeder (not sure which Front Sight to look in) and who is "he"? Could someone share the name of the device and the supplier? TIA, Chuck PS: Website would be cool also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie1947 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) I think their taking about the new case feeder for the rl550b from Dillon. Cant seem to find the darn link where everyone is talking about using them and setting them up if I find will follow up with it. Think I found it http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...pic=32029&h Edited July 18, 2006 by howie1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Just to add a little more confusion. Are we talking about the one with the big bullet hopper on it that costs an arm and both legs (and is pictured with the girl) or the cheaper one (under $200) that's made in Illinois? Both have been in front sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) If the bullet feeder you are discussing is the unit made by Gaspari & Assoc. (page 32 of of the Jul/Aug Front Sight), I have one that I have owned for a while. The design has been around for about 10 years. The unit works but is useless without a way to mechanically feed the unit with projectiles. The unit is delivered with a clear plastic tube that holds the projectiles. You must fill the tube as you would fill primers into a Dillon primer feed. The tubes are hand loaded with projectiles and then you must refill the tube every 40 to 60 rounds. NOT a time saver. In an effort to speed the process I found a source for the proper size plastic tubing but that did not solve the underlying problem ... HAND FILLING THE TUBES. IMO it is a waste of time the way it is. Edited July 18, 2006 by L9X25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 BE talked about bullet feeders once. He said sometning about the benfit to them was the consistency they bring to the process, not the speed per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Take a look at this http://bulletfeeder.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Damn that looks sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Warp, That is not true with the Gaspari unit. It requres that you add some bell to the case so that the projectile does not fall off as easy when the shellplate moves. Other methods may actually insert the projectile into the brass a small amount but this unit simply drops it onto the brass with no consistency. You can see the projectile wiggling as the shellplate rotates. If you attempt to get aggressive the projectiles fall over or fall off completely. BE talked about bullet feeders once. He said sometning about the benfit to them was the consistency they bring to the process, not the speed per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Take a look at thishttp://bulletfeeder.com/ Sweet! Does anybody have any idea what "very affordable" might mean ? And for some reason I could get the audio for the collator but not the actual image, anybody else able to get a picture? -Shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlands Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Take a look at thishttp://bulletfeeder.com/ Looked at that one a while back and it does look good. Only thing I'm not sure of is if trading in the powdercheck for a bulletfeeder is such a good trade. Yes, you can go faster, but you also lose some "security" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Take a look at this http://bulletfeeder.com/ Looked at that one a while back and it does look good. Only thing I'm not sure of is if trading in the powdercheck for a bulletfeeder is such a good trade. Yes, you can go faster, but you also lose some "security" I would never make that trade-off. Maybe it's possible to put the bullet feeder where you would normally seat the bullet and change the crimp die for a seat+crimp die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robopup Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I have it installed in my 650 the best I could without instruction, but I can't seem to get it to work reliablity. When it does work, it just drops the bullet onto the brass. It does not seat it. Frankly, it's money I wished I didn't spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Dan - which one?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobocracy Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Take a look at thishttp://bulletfeeder.com/ What's kind of strange is there's no photos of the unit itself and the videos spend no time focused on the loader, only on the shellplate area where you see bullets being loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Take a look at this http://bulletfeeder.com/ What's kind of strange is there's no photos of the unit itself and the videos spend no time focused on the loader, only on the shellplate area where you see bullets being loaded. I think that's intentional, to keep the mechanism secret, for whatever that's worth. I can't imagine that there's anything too magical about it-- there are a handful of mechanisms, both available commercially and gathering dust in the patent office to do it, it's the tuning and refinement of getting it to work right where the real intellectual property is. In theory somebody could knock it off, but the total market here can't be that huge. Of course maybe there's a big "Lee" sticker under the ??? tube :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I found out at the Handgunner that it is having patents applied for right now, and it should be ready to go full tilt this fall. DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I exchanged several e-mails with the "bulletfeeder.com" guy and he claims that his feeder partially seats the bullet so that you can crank the press as fast as you like without having the projectiles fall or even move. That is a significant improvement over the Gaspari unit. He estimated that the price for the complete package would be in the vicinity of $500 if my memory is correct. Robopup, The unit is not supposed to do more than drop the projectile onto the case. You have to bell the cases slightly more that you normally would to hand load and that makes it more consistent. On my 1050 they provided a metal rail that rides in the extraction groove and stabilizes the movement of the cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robopup Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 The Gaspari unit is the one I got. I do not think I will make use of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I bought one of the Gaspari units about 2 years ago. Emidio is a very nice man and it's a very clever design. But as was already stated, without a viable collator it's just a neat little gimick that I do not use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 ... as was already stated, without a viable collator it's just a neat little gimick that I do not use. Yep ... in the original box, under the reloading bench, collecting dust. For what it is worth, the "bulletfeeder.com" guy said that the Gaspari feeder would work with his collator and he would sell each part seperately for anyone that already had the Gapari unit. After hearing that his unit partially seats the projectile, allowing you to "crank" on the handle, I think I will be ordering the complete package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 ... as was already stated, without a viable collator it's just a neat little gimick that I do not use. Yep ... in the original box, under the reloading bench, collecting dust. For what it is worth, the "bulletfeeder.com" guy said that the Gaspari feeder would work with his collator and he would sell each part seperately for anyone that already had the Gapari unit. After hearing that his unit partially seats the projectile, allowing you to "crank" on the handle, I think I will be ordering the complete package. Purely a guess, but I was thinking his bullet drop unit might be similar to the Gaspari device while I was watching the video. To be enclosed in a tube of such similar dimensions, it wouldn't surprise me a bit. **For those that haven't seen one of the Gaspari units, they have a mechanism not unlike that which catches the main gear in a clock and allows it to advance only one cog per tick. Very clever, actually. Of course, if you've never looked *that* close at a clock you might wonder just what the Hell I'm talking about. It has two pins on a single pivoting arm -- one protrudes into the path under the bullet in the drop tube and one above, but never at the same time. As this units rocks back and forth it has the effect of opening the (drop) path to only one bullet at a time. Like you L9x25, I would probably go for the full package from the "bulletfeeder.com" guy if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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