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  1. John at Two Alpha Bullets can hook you up. I have been using his 122tc Bullets sized .357 for Bianchi 50yard loads for years. 2-3 inches @ 50 yards and same Poa/Poi as my match jhp load except 2 clicks windage at 50. I have the smaller Bullets sized .357 and get better accuracy.
  2. I would not use a 9mm fcd with a .358 bullet. The die will stage down the bullet and accuracy will suffer. A standard crimp die turned down will work if you don’t have a 357 fcd DougC
  3. You could just have your chamber reamed so you can load longer. You should be fine but better to be safe.
  4. In the Revo you need a real big crimp so your last couple bullets in the cylinder don’t jump. A roll crimp is best but you can do about the same thing with a taper crimp too.
  5. In conventional pistol bullets the jacket hollowpoint is considered most accurate. If you look at a cross-section of the bullet the heaviest part of the bullet is in the rear and that is the last part that is stabilized as it leaves the barrel. Other bullet styles lend them selves to be in accurate. A 122 truncated cone bullet is very accurate due to a very short pointed bullet front and the rear of the bullet is constructed like a hollow point with all the weight at the back . There were tests back in the twenties that showed the 120ish grain bullet had great accuracy in 9mm with tc style bullet. Quick and dirty take aways are that bigger diameter bullets are more accurate due to engaging the rifling better. When I worked up 95 grain loads in 9mm for steel challenge I had sub 1inch groups at 35 yds with 95 jhps. I had 4inch groups, if you call them groups, with 95 grain fmj. This demonstrates what a difference having the weight at the rear of the bullet to stabilize it will do for accuracy. Good Luck, DougC
  6. 3.8gr W231 with 115jhp. 1.120 oal. Staple load. Enjoy!
  7. In iron sighted pistols I used coated lead. They are accurate and usually give better accuracy than plated. I can get .357-358 bullets to give me what I want for accuracy This is very true in 9mm. In open guns with comps I spend the money for jacketed. Plated is false economy and for the price you can spend a couple more bucks and get great performance and most importantly for me, accuracy. Plated looks like jacketed, almost costs like jacketed, but they ain’t jacketed..... DougC
  8. Yes, Jason. You should like the longer bearing surface on the 160s. Make sure they are .358 for best accuracy, and the rollcrimp will help as well. DougC
  9. It was the imported Aussie CLAYS that was packaged by Hogdon. It happened to me as well with a highly polished dillon powder measure that was examined after the fact and I pulled a bunch of them and found some light ones, like 2.1 instead of 2.8, etc. It cured me of using that load, especially when titegroup gave much tighter groups at 25 yards with the combo I was using. DougC
  10. Guys, be careful using CLAYS powder loading lower than 3.0 grains. SInce the flakes are bigger they can bridge when there is not enough weight (mass) of more powder bearing downward and you can have intermittent powder drops and squibs. It is well documented on old threads on here and is a thing. CLAYS is a great minor .40 powder and minor/major .45 acp powder. Accuracy in most bullet styles suffer in 9mm short case capacity loads. If you want a soft powder in 9mm loads try titegroup and 320 and ramshot competition among others. If you must use CLAYS some people put aquarium pumps on them to make sure the powder flows correctly with the smaller charge weights. DougC
  11. AHI, thanks for sharing your experience and please continue to share. Post the info and let the chips fall where they may. All of this is a continual learning curve for ALL of us and having access to your information is important... PS......My 1x32 Schumann 9x19 barrel shot both 115jhp and 147s extremely well at long distance......;0) DougC
  12. I just read the American handgun article. From my testing I knew that the Zero Bullets would shoot better at terminal distance than the Nosler. The make up of the bullet makes a big difference. I know that for a 50 yard accuracy load zero or sierra pistol bullets will give the best accuracy once you get the load dialed in. For example using the same load and substituting Montana gold 115 JHP I get the same accuracy up to 35 yards and then the group opens up from an inch and a half to roughly 3 1/2 inches at 50 yards. I am not knocking Montana gold, They are good bullets but not as accurate as the others My current 38 super Load has an SD 12 and I can still shoot a 6 shot group of an inch and a half at 50 yards. You can drive yourself nuts worrying about the numbers. If the load shoots it shoots.
  13. Loads of good info here...... I used to sell 50 yard accuracy ammo for competition.....A buddy won a world title in Germany with it. I still use the same loads in 9mm and 38 Super in Bianchi Cup matches. Here are some necessary things for accuracy. Consistency. Period. It has to be repeatable for consistent accuracy. In the 9mm a medium powder is best for accuracy due to it's small case capacity. Most Bullseye loads and the like are set up short, around 1.075 -1.080. Other loads shoot well at 1.110-1.120. Here is a couple loads for example. Match load using once fired same headstamp cases /rollsized. 115jhp Zero conical/Sierra 115 jhp. OAL 1.110 OAL Crimp set at .377. 4.8-5.0gr VV 330/340, Titegroup. Federal Gold match primers. Your best accuracy with 115s are around 1150-1180 fps. The Fed match primers will get you an increase of 17-22 percent smaller groups as they are the most consistent primers available. For cheaper practice I use a Two Alpha 122 conical flat nose coated lead bullet sized .357 loaded to 1.030 OAL with 3.5-3.7gr TG. It shoots the same POI at 50 yards as my above JHP load except I push the rear sight to the right two clicks. I got pretty luck with that combo. For Super.Supercomp we bump up the 9mm powder charge .02 grains to start and see what your gun likes. VV 320 and WST are the most used powders in Super for 50 yard accuracy. A friend bracketed loads for his 9mm open gun and settled at 4.2gr TG in that particular gun/barrel whereas I have seen best accuracy in my gun at 4.5gr TG. The nice thing about handloading is that you can customize the load to your gun/barrel combo. It is really satisfying when you find the load. Where did I learn all of this stuff? I learned a lot from reading posts like this on this forum years ago, doing more research on the Net, and talking to anyone that knew more than I did about loading and competing. Hope this helps, DougC
  14. Another thing that might be happening is not getting the bullet straight when it is being seated. If they tip any bit then you can have some shaving and they wont gauge either. DougC
  15. Hi Sarge, remember I only said the brass would "chamber"......lol. 9 Major is a complete different animal.....
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