Porsche320 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Just finished an ultra heavy build, and I wonder if I went too far. The balance feels good. CG seems to be behind the trigger, but…. 69 oz. Anyone try anything near this heavy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runswithwood1 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Hopefully you have a good sturdy belt! My open 2011 weighs in at 57oz unloaded and that's more than enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhittin Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Nice looking blaster. What’s on the back of it? An electric motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 It’s a flux capacitor. When he hits .01 splits he goes back in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim vaughan Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 I have found that 1.3 Kg /46 oz is the ideal weight for me. Remember that 29 rounds also adds a heap of weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche320 Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 1 hour ago, jim vaughan said: I have found that 1.3 Kg /46 oz is the ideal weight for me. Remember that 29 rounds also adds a heap of weight. Yip, about 13 more oz. Over 5lbs on the draw. My 9major open is 57, and I thought a little more would be welcome. IDPA gun feels like at toy at 44 by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 I have built open guns anywhere from 38 OZs Empty to 60.25 OZs empty. I prefer a heavy gun in the 56-61 range myself. I'm also a larger guy compared to most. Each will have its own balance and feel. None of them cycle any faster than the others. Feel is different for sure, but that's about it. They function the same with the same ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Also... weight the gun without a mag. Most people know the weights of their empty gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbocomp38s Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 if it is balanced, I would not worry about it. I like some weight -I prefer that. Is this 9 major or 38sc? TY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche320 Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 7 minutes ago, turbocomp38s said: if it is balanced, I would not worry about it. I like some weight -I prefer that. Is this 9 major or 38sc? TY! 38s I have a 9 major and wanted to try super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche320 Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 19 minutes ago, Maximis228 said: I have built open guns anywhere from 38 OZs Empty to 60.25 OZs empty. I prefer a heavy gun in the 56-61 range myself. I'm also a larger guy compared to most. Each will have its own balance and feel. None of them cycle any faster than the others. Feel is different for sure, but that's about it. They function the same with the same ammo. 61 empty is pretty close to this. Good to have that data point. Thank you. I included the mag because of the ridiculous 3.5oz base plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 12 hours ago, Runswithwood1 said: Hopefully you have a good sturdy belt! My open 2011 weighs in at 57oz unloaded and that's more than enough for me As soon as you run and the pants with all the equipment fall off, then you'll know it's too heavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzim Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Max pistol weight is determined by your belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwmiket Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 You may want to consider wearing suspenders w/ your belt if it gets too saggy. -Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 I wouldnt like it,, IMO thats too dang heavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche320 Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 39 minutes ago, Joe4d said: I wouldnt like it,, IMO thats too dang heavy I might not like it either, but I’m going to find out. Have you competed with a gun you found too heavy? And what weight did you find to be too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Your perception is your reality. I think proper balance is a much better indicator of "Feel". My MPA DS9 LOC is heavier than my shadow 2 but the shadow 2 feels heavier to me because it's so nose heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 hour ago, Porsche320 said: I might not like it either, but I’m going to find out. Have you competed with a gun you found too heavy? And what weight did you find to be too much? nope, because if it was too heavy I wouldnt have competed with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 17 hours ago, Porsche320 said: Just finished an ultra heavy build, and I wonder if I went too far. The balance feels good. CG seems to be behind the trigger, but…. 69 oz. Anyone try anything near this heavy? Yes, I went through a phase where I played with heavier and heavier guns. At one point testing up to 59 oz. Now one of my guns is 42 the other just under 40 with out mags. Much happier in this weight range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche320 Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 8 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said: Yes, I went through a phase where I played with heavier and heavier guns. At one point testing up to 59 oz. Now one of my guns is 42 the other just under 40 with out mags. Much happier in this weight range. Thank you for the data point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 More weight isn't always "More Better". You need to test it out in live fire by running Doubles Drills to see what the on target hits look like at varied paces of shooting and distance of target. You also need to perform narrow and wide transition drills to determine if the extra weight is negatively impacting your ability to stop the gun precisely on the next target. Super heavy guns "Feel" very soft shooting and stable when shooting at a single target in a normal grip/stance scenario. But more often than not, the extra weight becomes a net detractor because the gun ends up being muzzle bouncy after the slide snaps forward or you can't stop the gun precisely on the next target because its too heavy. Performance on the range is always the ultimate validation of a guns setup. Get out on the range and see how it performs then go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywizzle Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Nice blaster! I've never shot competition gun so heavy, I'd be very curious to try it. I would have to hit the gym first. I thought my open gun at 50 oz without a mag I was pushing it. After shooting the open gun for a season, I found my CZs felt too light, so I ended up adding brass grips to get their weight within an ounce of the open gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runswithwood1 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 (edited) 7 hours ago, yigal said: As soon as you run and the pants with all the equipment fall off, then you'll know it's too heavy Blue alpha loop back inner belt and ratchet attachment for my outer solved that problem Edited August 6 by Runswithwood1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 31 minutes ago, Runswithwood1 said: Blue alpha loop back inner belt and ratchet attachment for my outer solved that problem nope not for me,, I suffer from noassital... waste bigger than my ass,, can torque a belt till I cant breath,, pants would still fall down.. Went to Perry suspenders long ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwmiket Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 14 hours ago, Joe4d said: nope not for me,, I suffer from noassital... waste bigger than my ass,, can torque a belt till I cant breath,, pants would still fall down.. Went to Perry suspenders long ago @Joe4d......... me too brother! That's why I mentioned suspenders too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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